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I just got into a debate at the office about this fact, being it is a government office I'm in....obviously this is a "can't" carry place

What I am trying to ascertain is where else "can't" you have a CCW

My big obvious ones are
1 government offices/ courthouses etc.
2 Schools (K-12....a real no brainer there)
3 anywhere prohibited via signs/ policy.....pretty much Monroe county from what I hear on here

That was all I could think of. I wasn't sure if Bars were one of those type of situations or not....


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post office ,most national parks, all federal buildings, some state and county/local building, schools, pre k through post grad, including parking lots, most state parks. Private owned businesses that post no guns signs, aka criminals welcome, have no authority to enforce other than to ask you to leave and have you charged with tress passing if you don't comply.
 

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thanks for the info, I still think legally you can carry in a bar (though I would discourage it if it were a viable option).....just a recipe for disaster.
 

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There's a thread out there (started by Dave from RPD I believe) with a running list of well-known places where CCW is forbidden. Rules do vary by County with regards to where you cannot carry. Some Counties do have "no carry in bar" policies whether you're drinking or not (Niagara is one of them). As Evild stated, privately owned establishments with "CCW Forbidden" policies are not backed by law.
 

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You can carry in a bar, you just can't can not carry and be intoxicated.
There is a law saying you cant carry while intoxicated? I know there is a law saying you cant hunt if you have had over a certain amount of alcohol.
 

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There is a law saying you cant carry while intoxicated? I know there is a law saying you cant hunt if you have had over a certain amount of alcohol.
sounds like the same concept to me. The local hunting "posse" around me is probably more known for their drinking habits than their hunting exploits. The tree stands seem to stand out to everyone with the pile of Genny cream ale and coors light cans at the base of the trees. I can't imagine why they can't get a deer
 

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sounds like the same concept to me. The local hunting "posse" around me is probably more known for their drinking habits than their hunting exploits. The tree stands seem to stand out to everyone with the pile of Genny cream ale and coors light cans at the base of the trees. I can't imagine why they can't get a deer
Sound like you need to find a different "Posse" to hunt with!

BTW bartended for many years and a lot of the folks in the bar carried. When the Judge called about my peermit and asked why I wanted an unrestricted permit, I told him I bartended and at closing we carried a lot of cash out of the bar and needed it for protection. He asked is there a lot of people in the bar that carried and I said yes many of them. I had my permit 3 days later.
 

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I have never heard that it's a violation if you are drunk and carrying, but you can bet that your permit will be pulled for doing so.
 

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There is a law saying you cant carry while intoxicated? I know there is a law saying you cant hunt if you have had over a certain amount of alcohol.
I could have sworn I read it but you are right, there is no express permission or prohibition statutes related to either gun possession while intoxicated or in locations where alcohol is served
 

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There are local laws about carrying while drunk. I know Rochester has one. Rochester also has a law that says if you carrying a firearm then you consent to a breath test if the officer has reasonable cause.

No person shall carry a firearm, shotgun, rifle or air gun in the City while such person has 1/10 of 1% or more by weight of alcohol in the person's blood as shown by chemical analysis of the person's blood, breath, urine or saliva.

Any person who carries a firearm, shotgun, rifle or air gun in this City shall be deemed to have given consent to a breath test and a chemical test of the person's breath, blood, urine or saliva for the purpose of determining the alcoholic or drug content of the person's blood, provided that any test is administered at the direction of a police officer having reasonable grounds therefor.
 

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This is about hunting while drunk.



§ 11-1203. Hunting while intoxicated prohibited. 1. No person shall engage in hunting while he is in an intoxicated condition. 2. No person shall engage in hunting while his ability to engage in such hunting without creating unreasonable risk of injury or death to himself or other human life is impaired by his consumption of alcohol or use of a drug.
2. "Intoxicated condition" shall mean the presence of .10 of one per centum or more by weight of alcohol in a person's blood as shown by chemical analyses of his blood, breath, urine, or saliva made pursuant to section 11-1205 of this title. An "impaired condition" shall mean a state of impairment of a person's capacity to think or act correctly, or of a loss, even in part of a person's control of his physical or mental faculties due to his consumption of alcohol or use of a drug.

So you can be more drunk and hunt legally then operate a motor vehicle lol. Got to love good old NYS.
 

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Sound like you need to find a different "Posse" to hunt with!
I don't hunt with that posse, they hunt on a different mountain than I do......though I am grateful, it sounds like WW3 with all of the shooting at, missing, and overcompensating....they drive the deer to me.
 

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This is about hunting while drunk.

§ 11-1203. Hunting while intoxicated prohibited. 1. No person shall engage in hunting while he is in an intoxicated condition. 2. No person shall engage in hunting while his ability to engage in such hunting without creating unreasonable risk of injury or death to himself or other human life is impaired by his consumption of alcohol or use of a drug.
2. "Intoxicated condition" shall mean the presence of .10 of one per centum or more by weight of alcohol in a person's blood as shown by chemical analyses of his blood, breath, urine, or saliva made pursuant to section 11-1205 of this title. An "impaired condition" shall mean a state of impairment of a person's capacity to think or act correctly, or of a loss, even in part of a person's control of his physical or mental faculties due to his consumption of alcohol or use of a drug.

So you can be more drunk and hunt legally then operate a motor vehicle lol. Got to love good old NYS.
wow, thanks for sharing this! I never knew.
Not that I hunt drunk or anything, well, since my younger days haha
i'm sure there were some thanksgiving mornings when I still had a pretty good buzz from partying the night before. :)
 

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There's a thread out there (started by Dave from RPD I believe) with a running list of well-known places where CCW is forbidden.
They were trying to keep that thread specific to Monroe County/Rochester area.
 

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post office ,most national parks, all federal buildings, some state and county/local building, schools, pre k through post grad, including parking lots, most state parks. Private owned businesses that post no guns signs, aka criminals welcome, have no authority to enforce other than to ask you to leave and have you charged with tress passing if you don't comply.
That is kind of a blanket statement that you might want to qualify..Post office, when Petersons law suit is settled...that may change.

Federal buildings? Well, have you ever read 18 USC 930 and the exemptions? (you know, that little part that says, this does not apply to:) Must not have.

State/county/local buildings? Again,you should be a bit more specific.

Schools? There are exemptions to that one too. Look in law and politics thread for the specific law.. I am assuming you are talking about NYS?

National Parks? Depends on state law. If state law does not allow any carry in parks?...maybe...maybe not, again, depends on State Law because Federal law says it is OK if it is OK within that state. If we are talking about outside NY, Most National Parks outside NYS you can carry...whether you need a license or not depends on the state the NP is in.

Private business it is up to that business and state law again.
 
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