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As I read more news from the interwebs about the supreme courts being positioned to repeal the 4th Amendment (see link below), I sit here in disgust what my fellow countrymen are doing to this nation. These people definitely have an agenda to destroy what freedoms we have left. So, as a thought experiment of conversation, I pose the question to my friends here: What is it going to take to get people to realize the country they live in is deteriorating beyond control from all of the socialist/liberal actions? From our 2nd Amendment and now news of the 4th Amendment being targeted. What is our line in the sand? How long before they come knocking on doors before people wake up? Pretty soon they will come for our 1st Amendment rights, restricting us from protesting and voicing opinions on sites such as this... Only allowing it in "free speech zones".

Supreme Court Positioned To Repeal 4th Amendment - Tea Party Command Center
 

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Unfortunately, John Q public will never acknowledge oppression or slavery until they find themselves cringing beneath the whips of their masters. Let us pray this fight will be ours, and not that of our children or grandchildren.
 

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Although the Supreme Court has no authority to repeal any amendment. I like you feel something in the air.
Something is going to break soon. Just be prepared for a false flag.
The progressives has broken into an all out sprint to the finish line.
 

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People will only wake up when they have lost everthing. When they don't have a job. they can't buy stuff at the mall, and they can't fill their heads with the current line up of reality t.v. Everything else is an intellectual excercise. Everyone knows there's two things Americans hate. Thinking and excercise.
 

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People will only wake up when they have lost everything. When they don't have a job. they can't buy stuff at the mall, and they can't fill their heads with the current line up of reality t.v. Everything else is an intellectual exercise. Everyone knows there's two things Americans hate. Thinking and exercise.
Do the math:
Deblasio (a self avowed communist) meets with Barack Obama
Deblasio then meets with and joins with Rham Emanuel
Deblasio and Cuomo meet and join forces. Cuomo is the typical latent communist type as he has never had a real job outside of government.
Are we getting ready to see the slow creep of communism that has been around since the 30's break out into a full blown sprint?
It looks like the runners are in the starting blocks and the starting gun is raised in the air.

Something is in the air. I don't think it will take much at all. Maybe just not being able to get a Starbucks anymore will do it.
 

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What is our line in the sand?
Shall Not Be Infringed.

Arms in the hands of the de facto Militia are the backbone of the Bill of Rights and our Constitutional form of government.

Remove the spine, and our national character will be forever crippled and helpless in the face of a rapidly growing and tyrannical Government hell bent on giving itself more and more Power.
 

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I think the call to action has to be the mass use of force to remove firearms from citizens. Without the recourse to stand against them with force, it is over. Read a little European history and you will see the end is near when they confiscate arms from the people. The wisdom of our forefathers was passed to us through our constitution on this matter in the form of the 2nd Amendment. Better to make a stand then always regret is what it comes down to. How we as Great Grandsons of those who risked and gave their lives, homes, and fortunes; to make a hopeless stand against the greatest power on earth, is yet to be seen? Our service to future generations by taking action may be coming due before we know it. How we will go about, I don't know? I think it is pretty clear that it will not be on an open battle field. I just read a fantastic book by Newt Gingrich, and a co-writer called Valley Forge. I just couldn't believe from reading the book how desperate things were, how so frequently hopeless, and how much of a miracle it is that we have this great country. Many may not realize that very few men actually fought for the revolution. Many never came out to fight for liberty. It will be that way the next time it comes as well. Don't expect a majority to stand. It will be a small group of highly motivated patriots who are willing to, and expect to, risk everything.
 

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Their is too much effort to make the jobs of law enforcement and law makers easier, at the expense of the freedoms of the everyday citizen. If this trend keeps up the US will be the latest country on those highlight reels of political protests turned all out riots. Our fore fathers would truly be ashamed of the present day politicians and their actions.
 

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When Glen Beck had his show on Fox and was on his mission of connecting the dots and showing the path of communism in this country and the people involved, most people called him a nut and paranoid. Now just a few years later people are waking up and realizing Glen was right. Our Grandparents who lived through WWII would have a hard time understanding how we ever kept silent and let things get to this point.
 

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I think the call to action has to be the mass use of force to remove firearms from citizens. Without the recourse to stand against them with force, it is over. Read a little European history and you will see the end is near when they confiscate arms from the people. The wisdom of our forefathers was passed to us through our constitution on this matter in the form of the 2nd Amendment. Better to make a stand then always regret is what it comes down to. How we as Great Grandsons of those who risked and gave their lives, homes, and fortunes; to make a hopeless stand against the greatest power on earth, is yet to be seen? Our service to future generations by taking action may be coming due before we know it. How we will go about, I don't know? I think it is pretty clear that it will not be on an open battle field. I just read a fantastic book by Newt Gingrich, and a co-writer called Valley Forge. I just couldn't believe from reading the book how desperate things were, how so frequently hopeless, and how much of a miracle it is that we have this great country. Many may not realize that very few men actually fought for the revolution. Many never came out to fight for liberty. It will be that way the next time it comes as well. Don't expect a majority to stand. It will be a small group of highly motivated patriots who are willing to, and expect to, risk everything.
Hear hear!
 

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Throw in a full scale economic collapse replete with hyperinflation and you will have yourself a tad bit of anarchy. Light bulbs will go on.
 

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Bible prophecy is unfolding. Repent and ask God to heal our nation.
That same book that says a dude got swallowed by a whale and lived???........come on......let the slightest bit of reality sink in. This is the same cycle that happens to all empires. People prayed to gods of all kinds each time, and it didn't do a damn thing.

Lines like this really frost my ass.....fix it yourself, as with anything that's ever gotten done in this country.
 

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If there appears to be a fire inside your home, or there are reports of gunshots in your home, or screams, the need for a search warrant is obviated. Likewise if you are stopped for cause, roadside searches of the vehicle have been the typical routine followed, especially if a misdemeanor arrest is pending due to reckless driving or suspecteddrug or alchohol intoxication. Good thing after the perp did the hit and run, that he did not have a gun, as with the felony pot possession because, that would have escalated the charges. The law is based upon common sense and the history of British Troops being quartered in your home during the 1700's, without your permission... AND the resulting searches for contraband that were done. I have not been searched anytime that I can recall, either on the road or in my home. Rights needs to be respected form UNREASONABLE searches and seizures and as the law is further defined, we are all safer from the criminals and the convictions generally stick. During the Civil War the Union troops foraged for food, and burned plenty of enemy homes without warrants and we occupied plenty of homes in Europe during WWII, but that was war and the victor makes the rules.
 

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That same book that says a dude got swallowed by a whale and lived???........come on......let the slightest bit of reality sink in. This is the same cycle that happens to all empires. People prayed to gods of all kinds each time, and it didn't do a damn thing.

Lines like this really frost my ass.....fix it yourself, as with anything that's ever gotten done in this country.
My friend, our Founders were not above asking for Divine Providence to help them as they went forward to bring Liberty to the greatest nation on earth. They did so throughout the Revolution, and attributed their success in later years to help from on high.

Let a man have his prayers if he is on your side. It causes no harm, and may call forth great help.

The notion that men should not call upon the Divine for succor would have been alien to our Fonuders:

When the First Continental Congress convened in 1774, Thomas Cushing encouraged the delegates to begin their proceedings with prayer. John Jay and John Rutledge questioned the practicality of doing so given the different denominations represented in Congress. The fiery Congregationalist Samuel Adams replied that "he was no Bigot, and could hear a Prayer from a Gentleman of Piety and Virtue" and suggested that they invite the Anglican minister Jacob Duché to open the body with prayer. Congress agreed.

The following day, Reverend Duché "arrived in his Pontificallibus, read several Prayers" and then, according to the Congregationalist John Adams, "struck out into an extemporary prayer, which filled the Bosom of every Man present." Throughout the remainder of its existence, the Continental and Confederation Congresses employed chaplains and routinely issued calls for prayer, fasting, and thanksgiving.
But what about the new national government?

On September 24, 1789, the House of Representatives approved the final wording of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Among other things, it states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

The next day Representative Elias Boudinot, later president of the American Bible Society, proposed that Congress ask President Washington to recommend a day of public thanksgiving and prayer.

In response to objections by a few members of Congress that such proclamations mimicked European customs and are more properly issued by states, Roger Sherman, a Representative from Connecticut who was intimately involved in crafting the First Amendment, "justified the practice of thanksgiving, on any signal event, not only as a laudable one in itself, but as warranted by a number of precedents in holy writ."
Members of the House of Representatives approved Boudinot's resolution, the Senate quickly followed suit, and on October 3, 1789 George Washington issued a proclamation urging Americans to "most humbly offer our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations."

Like Washington, presidents John Adams and James Madison issued calls for prayer and fasting, although after he left the presidency Madison recorded in private papers that he regretted doing so.

It is true that as president Thomas Jefferson refused to issue formal proclamations encouraging prayer (although he issued at least one as governor of Virginia), but in his second inaugural address he acknowledged that he would need "the favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our forefathers as Israel of old" and asked his fellow citizens "to join with me in supplications, that he [God] will so enlighten the minds of your servants, guide their councils, and prosper their measures."

For all of their disagreements, America's founders found ways to pray together, and virtually all of them believed that the nation's civic leaders should encourage prayer. We would do well to spend this year's National Day of Prayer following Washington's admonition to beseech God to "pardon our national and other transgressions" and to give thanks to "that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be."
America's Founders on Prayer and the National Day of Prayer
 

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It will start with the mass revokation of pistol permits, then the confiscation from those who don't turn them in willingly along with any other firearms are owned. The general gun owner won't even care until they come to take away their deer guns, then people will notice............to late!
 
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