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After looking at some new stocks for my Stag, I came across a few pics on the forum of the ACE shorty, and regular size stocks. Just wanted to know if anyone owns one, what they think of them, and are they worth it? They look pretty nice, I'm not a fan of fixed stocks, but the ACE actually looks nice, and seems like it would be a better option than having to pin a Magpul STR or CTR in place. As always much appreciated.

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I have a regular-length ACE AR-FX stock, and I think it's absolutely fantastic. Can't imagine I'd trade it for anything else, especially given the added difficulty of a legal telescoping stock in this state. When I first put my carbine together and brought it to the range, there were some slightly oversided pieces of brass mixed in with the rest, which stuck in the chamber just out of battery. I had to pound the butt on a pallet to free it up. Stock is no worse for wear. Plus, it's very light, and the foam tube is comfortable and seems to cut down on the buffer "sproing" a little better than a regular A2. I run mine without the included rubber pad, so it's about A1 length, but that's just fine for me.
 

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I have the ace fx entry stock. Love it LOP for me is perfect. I'm 5 8. My buddy who is taller does not like it so much. Too short for him. Had a pinned stock before and am much happier with this. Built like a Brick $hithouse
 

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ACE shorty is too short, IMO add a 1" receiver extension and it's fine.
As far as a longer ACE, I think there are better options.
 

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I have ACE skeleton stocks on AK pattern rifles and love them. I've actually always wondered on if I should go the same way if I were to build an AR. You just don't ever see many pics of ACE stocks on forum members ARs for some reason. Exactly as Noddles mentioned, it seems quite logical instead of going through the trouble of pinning some kind of folding stock.
 

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chuck071 said:
Built like a Brick $hithouse
I'll go up against any door (and probably more than a few they won't) with my Sully stock.
They mean 'entry' to represent a LOP range and as 'entering' an already breached house/room/enclosure, not 'entry' as in beat the door down and still conduct all expected operations time after time.
Subtleties of word massage ;)

Aaaanyway,
The short ACE has a LOP of roughly 12 1/2" with the standard stock plate w/no pad

If you are taller than around 5' 8"~10" AND like to steeply blade yourself to shoot you're likely not going to like it.
If you don't blade (an entry person should already know to 'present the plate') its decent for pretty much anyone unless a dwarf and wearing a heavy coat and real body armor, in which case i'll feel long.
IOW its most productive when pointed straight out forward from the body with shoulders mostly if not completely square rather than across the body.

Weight wise its kinda worthless for balancing out guns that have more than a pretty minimalist front end.
Decent with a conventional handguards and standard profile bbl, fugly with quad rail, VFG, flashlight and a bottle opener.
Though 'balance' can be very subjective so YMMV

'Mortaring' the rifle is not a test of/for proofing a stock. You can do it without a stock even being present...
Granted if a stock is well and truly an absolute hunk of **** that was probably half broken before it was installed it may fail with mortaring, but in normal circumstance its not even a factor.

All mortaring does is let you know the the receiver extension and the lower receiver are up to expected performance levels for an aluminum tube screwed into an aluminum forging and that the small area of contact in the butt plate where the mounting screw passes through is suitably strong enough. (on a standard stock is 1/16" thick bit of stamped sheet steel molded into the plastic buttpad, so we aren't talking massive requirements to begin with)
Everything else is just fluff along for the ride and mean no more to the process than what front sling mount you have would.

Buttstroking or forces using the side or toe of the stock is a test of stock strength, and I would not even consider trying it with an ACE of any length.
Nor would I want it to get caught in a closing door. (not even the closet door in a prefab let alone a truck door)

However it does make life easier if you plan on doing a lot of toting around.

If you end up with entry length, take into consideration tha that brand and type will likely be the only stock that will work with the custom receiver extension. You're not going to be able to just swap to something else without alse obtaining/having on hand a rifle (with buffer and spring) or a carbine receiver extension too. This isn't a M4 to Magpul to VLTOR kind of thing where you just slip X stock of choice onto a common extension.

Strictly my take on it and in no way implies condecention nor favor for the ACE stock system.
All I offer is that its strengths and weaknesses should be very carefully considered dependant upon how/why/where the system potentially will/may be employed.
If its going to be a light duty, hunter, or plinker you'll likely enjoy it and have no issues, but if its for a duty, SHTF or your life depends on it for way more than 10 minutes a week, then you may want to look elsewhere. .
 

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Thanks guys for all the input!!! I'm around 6'1.5 6'2 so I'm a pretty tall guy. But I figure with that 1inch extension, I should be gtg. I like the fact that if I need to add more lop, I can. It looks like a good stock, and I don't think that I'll be breaking down any doors, or doing any buttstroking. Most I do with my AR on a average day at the range is probably around 100-150 rounds and some tactical drills, nothing too intense that I don't think the ACE wouldn't be able to handle. My only concern is considering how tall I am, but since the current POS stock on my Stag is collapsible but pinned, the lop on it is horrible, I can't get a good cheek weld, and on top of that, my nose is no where near the charging the handle (although I have the Eotech 512 so that really doesn't matter). This is why I have decided to try out the ACE.
 

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You might want to PM jinxed247 and talk short stocks with tall guys
He's like 6' 4" or so with 9' arms and uses a sully comfortably (12" LOP)
 

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Thanks guys for all the input!!! I'm around 6'1.5 6'2 so I'm a pretty tall guy. But I figure with that 1inch extension, I should be gtg. I like the fact that if I need to add more lop, I can. It looks like a good stock, and I don't think that I'll be breaking down any doors, or doing any buttstroking. Most I do with my AR on a average day at the range is probably around 100-150 rounds and some tactical drills, nothing too intense that I don't think the ACE wouldn't be able to handle. My only concern is considering how tall I am, but since the current POS stock on my Stag is collapsible but pinned, the lop on it is horrible, I can't get a good cheek weld, and on top of that, my nose is no where near the charging the handle (although I have the Eotech 512 so that really doesn't matter). This is why I have decided to try out the ACE.
I'm 6'3" don't just get the 1" buttpad, get a 1" spacer for it like this....
Buttstock Extender 1 AR-15 Aluminum Matte

or wait and see what the Magpul FCS loooks like when it's released.
 

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Yes ACE is a very simple yet nice stock. Simple = Good. Just think if you might need a cheek raiser or not. If that is the case no need for anything huge. MOE will do just fine.
 

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Thanks again guys,

Now just debating on whether or not to drop some $ and get the ACE or just take out my good old drill and bits and use some old trigger guard roll pins I have laying around on my work bench :) MOE would be very easy to pin..
 

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Like Tifosi said. I have the sully stock (I am 6'2 BTW) but I do have the extra long monkey arms :) I love the stock. Everytime I bring it up the tip of my nose goes right to the charging handle. Same sight picture/sight alignment and cheekweld (all important for accuracy). I wouldn't be afraid to bash in a door or someones head with it (Hopefully would never have to but it's nice to know that I could if I needed too!).

Here's one that I just put together.....



Like I said...very solid...balances out my rifle extremely well and it fits. If you think that it's too short you can go the 1" extension route...which I don't think that you would need too. All depends on your needs, how you hold the weapon etc. I wanted something tough and that helped me keep my consistancy even without a lot of practice. It's nice to know that if I shouldered my weapon five years from now, without having picked it up, that everything would line right up for me.
 

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Buy once, cry once :)

Damn.... I remember when I was 6' tall.
Looong time ago, but I was there. Honest.

Now I'm like, what, 5' 7"?
The hump fits right in to a square cqb stance pretty aerodynamically though...
 
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