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Basically what the subject says. I know there’s been appeals, stays, lawyers, legal stuffs, etc…

What’s the current status on being able to carry in NY -is it still “business must have sign you can carry” or is it currently “like it was before”?

The worst part about this is honestly not knowing what’s legal and what’s not!
 

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Here is a link to the best article I have found that gives some detail about what has been included in the stay. The private property section is included in the stay.
U.S. judge suspends many of New York's new gun restrictions
I have heard that the injunction is only for the Northern District of New York. I heard this from a gun shop this weekend while shopping for a new scope for my deer hunting rifle.
 

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NEW YORK, Nov 7 (Reuters) - A federal judge in New York temporarily suspended many parts of the state's new gun restrictions on Monday to allow members of a gun-owners' rights group to continue their lawsuit challenging the new law as unconstitutional. Judge Glenn Suddaby of the U.S. District Court in Syracuse agreed to issue the order at the request of six New York residents who are members of Gun Owners of America, which competes with the National Rifle Association in political influence. In Monday's preliminary injunction, Suddaby said New York officials could not compel people applying for a gun license to disclose the handles of their social media accounts or the names and contact details of everyone they live with, major provisions of the Concealed Carry Improvement Act which took effect on Sept. 1. Nor would applicants have to prove their "good moral character," Suddaby wrote in the 182-page order, a length he ascribed to the new law's "unprecedented constitutional violations."

He also sharply pared back New York's new list of "sensitive places" where it is a new felony crime to possess a gun even with a license, writing that the state could not ban guns in theaters, bars and restaurants, parks, airports and other public places. The bans, however, can remain in some places, including schools, courthouses and polling stations. He also suspended enforcement of a new felony of having a gun on private premises without the express permission of the property owner or lessee.
 

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NEW YORK, Nov 7 (Reuters) - A federal judge in New York temporarily suspended many parts of the state's new gun restrictions on Monday to allow members of a gun-owners' rights group to continue their lawsuit challenging the new law as unconstitutional. Judge Glenn Suddaby of the U.S. District Court in Syracuse agreed to issue the order at the request of six New York residents who are members of Gun Owners of America, which competes with the National Rifle Association in political influence. In Monday's preliminary injunction, Suddaby said New York officials could not compel people applying for a gun license to disclose the handles of their social media accounts or the names and contact details of everyone they live with, major provisions of the Concealed Carry Improvement Act which took effect on Sept. 1. Nor would applicants have to prove their "good moral character," Suddaby wrote in the 182-page order, a length he ascribed to the new law's "unprecedented constitutional violations."

He also sharply pared back New York's new list of "sensitive places" where it is a new felony crime to possess a gun even with a license, writing that the state could not ban guns in theaters, bars and restaurants, parks, airports and other public places. The bans, however, can remain in some places, including schools, courthouses and polling stations. He also suspended enforcement of a new felony of having a gun on private premises without the express permission of the property owner or lessee.
Hi, not sure why you posted this – it is old, and was recently superseded by the second circuit court of appeals which put a stay on that preliminary injunction. (See above post November 15) Right now the CCIA is fully in effect
 

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Hi, not sure why you posted this – it is old, and was recently superseded by the second circuit court of appeals which put a stay on that preliminary injunction. (See above post November 15) Right now the CCIA is fully in effect
One of my friends who recently received his full carry after completing the 18 hour training was saying that this training class taught him things about the new law he didn’t know about. He went and purchased a few gun cases with locks and will use a large cover hiding the cases from view.
 

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One of my friends who recently received his full carry after completing the 18 hour training was saying that this training class taught him things about the new law he didn’t know about. He went and purchased a few gun cases with locks and will use a large cover hiding the cases from view.
It’s pretty simple to look at the FAQ page by the state and see this is the “rule” of law.
To the OP things are changing fast and are flip flopping back and forth. There is an ongoing thread here and you should watch that and pay attention. Things are changing quickly and almost weekly at this point.
 

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It’s pretty simple to look at the FAQ page by the state and see this is the “rule” of law.
To the OP things are changing fast and are flip flopping back and forth. There is an ongoing thread here and you should watch that and pay attention. Things are changing quickly and almost weekly at this point.
As of now, the CCIA has not changed since the DOJ memo was released for publication.
 

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Hi, not sure why you posted this – it is old, and was recently superseded by the second circuit court of appeals which put a stay on that preliminary injunction. (See above post November 15) Right now the CCIA is fully in effect
It had been superseded but it wasn't "old". Barely a week had passed since that ruling. The latest ruling by Suddaby rightly calls the CCIW a, "patently unconstitutional law."
 

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It had been superseded but it wasn't "old". Barely a week had passed since that ruling. The latest ruling by Suddaby rightly calls the CCIW a, "patently unconstitutional law."
But it’s still in effect so his comments mean little at this point. He did recently say the plaintiffs have standing so maybe good things to come until the second circuit gets ahold of it again.
 

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But it’s still in effect so his comments mean little at this point. He did recently say the plaintiffs have standing so maybe good things to come until the second circuit gets ahold of it again.
When they actually deal with the matter, they may side with Sudabby. Seems they are trying to minimize confusion at this point. Unfortunately, it isn't working.
 
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