New York Firearms Forum banner

1 - 20 of 29 Posts
G

·
Discussion Starter #1
But not a drop to drink………

Like 90% of Americans my potable (safe to drink) water is delivered to me by a municipal water authority. We take this for granted. When we turn the valve water comes out that's the way it's always been. But it may not be like that in the event of an emergency.



This municipal water is delivered by gravity feed from a tower a couple of miles up the road. To fill that tower it takes pumps powered by electricity. In the event of a "grid-down" situation those pumps won't work and eventually the supply of municipal water will end.

Then what?
Have you given it any thought?

A person must have water to survive. Experts disagree on exactly how much water it takes to survive but suffice it to say, you've got to have it and more is better.

Not just any water will do. Obviously salt water is a no-go. Dirty water will hydrate you but will kill you in a different way. Waterborne diseases kill millions in the third world and those same diseases will show themselves here during a prolonged emergency.

Storing water isn't really a solution because no matter how much you lay up eventually you'll run out. You need a plan to secure potable water perpetually.

Ponds, Lakes and streams are obvious sources of surface water but they are also the most likely to be contaminated. If this is your plan then you'll need to have on hand the means to purify that water.

You can use chemicals, you can boil it or you can filter it.

Filtering is by far the best course of action. Boiling requires time and fuel and chemicals make potable water taste awful.



Water filters are so important that the "Two is One" rule should be applied. Pictured above are two gravity water filters. These should be high on the list of anyone serious about self-reliance and preparedness.

Ultimately the best solution to the problem of securing a perpetual supply of potable water is to have a well. Unless you live beyond the geographic limits of a municipal water supply you probably don't have a well. I didn't. But I felt that this was important enough to justify the expense to have one put in.

So a few years ago I had a 117-foot well drilled on my property and then installed a Monitor Model 11HD hand pump. This came on the heels of having the solar panels installed and the delivery of an 8'X20' wood shed. I took some ribbing from my neighbors about it with them asking if there was something coming that they didn't know about. I just laughed with them.



There's a peace of mind that comes with the knowledge that you've checked an important item off your list.



All God's creatures need water.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,864 Posts
Not too long ago, someone told me that the next major war is going to be over water. More than a grain of truth to that. Easiest way to bring NYC to its knees would be to cut off the water
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,486 Posts
Losers. I'm just going to drink my own pee.

<Everything I know about survival I learned from Bear McGriddles>

/s

Filtration doesn't seem that safe to me. Seems like giardia and cryptosporidium could still get through.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,534 Posts
Filtration doesn't seem that safe to me. Seems like giardia and cryptosporidium could still get through.
There's always distillation.

@ kmussack:

Does the pump freeze up in the winter?
Not real handy to have a pump you cannot use because the first 6 feet of it is filled with ice.

Though I suppose if its a 'drain back' type it couldn't freeze the water thats not in it :)
 
G

·
Discussion Starter #5
There's always distillation.

@ kmussack:

Does the pump freeze up in the winter?
Not real handy to have a pump you cannot use because the first 6 feet of it is filled with ice.

Though I suppose if its a 'drain back' type it couldn't freeze the water thats not in it :)
Yep, there's a drain about 6-feet down so no water remains in the pump head. We use it all winter long without any problems.

Distillation is even more energy intensive than boiling, plus you'll concentrate volatile contaminents by that method.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,700 Posts
Food grade 35% Hydrogen Peroxide; all natural, will purify water quite well and has not odor or taste. Only drawback it has to be stored in a freezer, but a little bit goes a long way.
 

·
I wish I were an Oscar Meyer Weiner
Joined
·
6,795 Posts
You cant keep drinking your piss because you will die when the toxins your body is trying to get rid of build up.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,841 Posts
And drinking your own piss doesn't restore water lost to sweat and evaporation, either.

That's a pretty good idea, Kevin. I think you've just made my to-do list a little longer. Collapsible carboys aren't going to last forever, after all.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,864 Posts
Couldn't one simply dig down into the ground deep enough until water started seeping through?
Only if you stumbled on an area where the water table was close to the surface. Most drinking water wells are very deep.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,864 Posts
Good idea but once discoverd you'll be sharing it one way or another ! You should probably build some kind of encloser around it.
 

·
I wish I were an Oscar Meyer Weiner
Joined
·
6,795 Posts
Drinking your own urine is a good way to whiten your teeth (uric acid?) but even bear says not to keep drinking it over and over again.

I was thinking that putting it in your basement would be good because its out of sight and if people are desperate you can hunker down inside without having to go out for the water.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,841 Posts
I was thinking that putting it in your basement would be good because its out of sight and if people are desperate you can hunker down inside without having to go out for the water.
Well that's true! And then there's the added bonus of no frozen pipes, cooler in the summer, and you're closer to the water table already.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter #15
Losers. I'm just going to drink my own pee.

<Everything I know about survival I learned from Bear McGriddles>

/s

Filtration doesn't seem that safe to me. Seems like giardia and cryptosporidium could still get through.
Google it and find out......0.5 micron filters work on these bugs just fine.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter #16
...I was thinking that putting it in your basement would be good because its out of sight and if people are desperate you can hunker down inside without having to go out for the water...
It's tough to get this in your basement.....unless you drill then build.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,486 Posts
Kev, it's too bad your neighbors saw it. Better be ready to defend that thing when the times comes (and after seeing a few of your weapons, I have no doubt in my mind that you will).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11,238 Posts
Might not need to dig out anything. In my house under the foundation they did a huge bed very deep and my sump pump goes down 5 ft.
The basement is very dry which is what you want but no matter what season there is always water there at the bottom, plenty of it. I know because I put an industrial grade sump pump that it goes on and off quite often.
Not ideal but in a pinch will do the trick. The best is an actual well as above. For cheap filtration two bins stacked and then layers of sand and charcoal powder. Gravity will do the rest. Then boil the drinking water 10 minutes or get an ultraviolet lamp system. These can be powered by batteries and solar as it takes so little power.

CRYSTAL QUEST CQE-UV-00101 1 GPM Ultraviolet Water Sterilizer System
 
1 - 20 of 29 Posts
Top