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Yes and pay very close attention that the only thing you will be able to do is clean and maintain your firearm. This goes far and beyond just making ghost guns. You won’t be able to install any parts unless you’re a licensed gunsmith. No sights, stocks, scopes, slings even.
 

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What in the world...?? This is all rifles and shotguns, not just "firearms" right? This would make it a felony for me to build a single-shot rifle with wood stock??
 

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What in the world...?? This is all rifles and shotguns, not just "firearms" right? This would make it a felony for me to build a single-shot rifle with wood stock??
You'd be a felon if you mounted your own scope, changed a stick, fixed a broken firing line, mounted new sights on your gun. You don't have to build anything to violate this.
 

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You'd be a felon if you mounted your own scope, changed a stick, fixed a broken firing line, mounted new sights on your gun. You don't have to build anything to violate this.
There is much I find perplexing about this bill, mostly how it even got on the floor let alone how it passed the senate, but one thing confounds me in a different way.

§ 5. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 265.07 to read
as follows:
§ 265.07 REGISTRATION AND SERIALIZATION OF FIREARMS, RIFLES, SHOTGUNS,
FINISHED FRAMES OR RECEIVERS, AND UNFINISHED FRAMES OR
RECEIVERS BY GUNSMITHS.
(1) FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "UNFINISHED FRAME OR RECEIVER"
MEANS A PIECE OF ANY MATERIAL THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE THE FRAME OR
RECEIVER OF A FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN BUT THAT HAS BEEN SHAPED OR
FORMED IN ANY WAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BECOMING THE FRAME OR RECEIVER OF A
FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN, AND WHICH MAY READILY BE MADE INTO A FUNC-
TIONAL FRAME OR RECEIVER THROUGH MILLING, DRILLING OR OTHER MEANS. THE
TERM SHALL NOT INCLUDE A PIECE OF MATERIAL THAT
HAS HAD ITS SIZE OR
EXTERNAL SHAPE ALTERED TO FACILITATE TRANSPORTATION OR STORAGE OR HAS
HAD ITS CHEMICAL COMPOSITION ALTERED.
Disregarding the fact that any piece of material may "readily" be made into a receiver if you mill it...

So if you anodize a 80% AR-15 lower to protect it from scratches or corrosion in transportation then it's perfectly fine?? And there are pistol designs that I can think of "splitting" in multiple pieces that mate like a jigsaw puzzle and pinned back together, not so sure about how it would affect its structural integrity but would certainly facilitate transportation.

And then I see the part that I think you were referring to,

ANY PERSON OTHER THAN A GUNSMITH DULY LICENSED PURSUANT TO SECTION
400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER WHO ASSEMBLES, MANUFACTURES, FABRICATES, BUILDS
OR FITS TOGETHER THE COMPONENT PARTS OF A FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN,
OTHER THAN FOR THE PURPOSES OF PERFORMING ROUTINE CLEANING OR MAINTE-
NANCE ON A LAWFULLY POSSESSED FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN FOR NON-COMMER-
CIAL PURPOSES, IS GUILTY OF A CLASS C FELONY.
but "component parts"??? Surely this interferes with interstate commerce enough to be unconstitutional without even having anything to do with the 2A, no?

I was asking about the legality of designing a non-firearm carbine from a newly manufactured (not stripped from a pistol) P320 FCU in another post, not sure what happened to it, I think it told me it had to wait for mod approval, but this kind of thing makes the question seem moot.
 

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There is much I find perplexing about this bill, mostly how it even got on the floor let alone how it passed the senate, but one thing confounds me in a different way.

Disregarding the fact that any piece of material may "readily" be made into a receiver if you mill it...

So if you anodize a 80% AR-15 lower to protect it from scratches or corrosion in transportation then it's perfectly fine?? And there are pistol designs that I can think of "splitting" in multiple pieces that mate like a jigsaw puzzle and pinned back together, not so sure about how it would affect its structural integrity but would certainly facilitate transportation.

And then I see the part that I think you were referring to,

but "component parts"??? Surely this interferes with interstate commerce enough to be unconstitutional without even having anything to do with the 2A, no?

I was asking about the legality of designing a non-firearm carbine from a newly manufactured (not stripped from a pistol) P320 FCU in another post, not sure what happened to it, I think it told me it had to wait for mod approval, but this kind of thing makes the question seem moot.
It not hasn't passed yet. Keep in mind any pistol frame that is milled to be functional will need to be placed on your pistol permit for legal reasons. Also make sure you follow federal guidelines and the safe act if you're planning on doing this. Although the 320 pistol grip is not serialized just the FCU but that's would need to be added to your pistol permit.
 

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It not hasn't passed yet. Keep in mind any pistol frame that is milled to be functional will need to be placed on your pistol permit for legal reasons. Also make sure you follow federal guidelines and the safe act if you're planning on doing this. Although the 320 pistol grip is not serialized just the FCU but that's would need to be added to your pistol permit.
It passed the upper house, vote seems to have been along party lines mostly, but still... I really don't understand the gameplan, am I mistaken for thinking it would be struck down in federal court"

Anyway, sorry to hijack the thread a little (not sure what/who I need to ping to get a new thread approved as a new user) but if it's just been manufactured, what makes a receiver/frame one for a pistol? I mean I understand if the plan was to put it in a 320 grip module then I would have needed to get it serialized, probably best before even finishing it, apply for amendment, etc. but if it's assembled into a rifle, does the fact that it is compatible with a pistol grip make it a pistol frame?

If I skip making a cut so that it wouldn't be compatible with a P320 would it be any different?

I was thinking it would work more like an AR pistol/rifle build, as I understand it, if you assemble it into a pistol first, then it's a pistol receiver forever in NY, and if you assemble it as a featureless rifle, then it's a rifle, except you can't turn it into a pistol without making it an NFA.
 

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I haven't built one of the 80% frames rifle or pistol in a functioning firearm, but if you did build a handgun out of an 80% frame how can you put it on your permit. There aren't any serial numbers on them? What would the process be to do so, can you apply for a serial number, would you need and FFL01 holder to do this? I'm just looking for information, I apologize if this has been covered somewhere else, if so can you point me in the right direction...
 

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I haven't built one of the 80% frames rifle or pistol in a functioning firearm, but if you did build a handgun out of an 80% frame how can you put it on your permit. There aren't any serial numbers on them? What would the process be to do so, can you apply for a serial number, would you need and FFL01 holder to do this? I'm just looking for information, I apologize if this has been covered somewhere else, if so can you point me in the right direction...
I've successfully placed a Polymer 80 pistol build on my permit in Erie County. Here's the process:

First, you have to put a serial number on it. It doesn't get assigned by anyone, you just make it up. The polymer 80 frame has a blank serial plate on the bottom of the dust cover in the middle of the accessory rail. You could technically do it by hand, but I had it professionally laser etched for $20 Once that is done, I wrote up a letter of intent to build a pistol marking down all the specifics - make (home build), model (again, make it up), serial number, caliber, and your pistol permit information. The permit office was adamant about stating that this pistol is for personal use only and will NOT be sold. I also added a statement about ensuring that the pistol will be built NY SAFE act compliant. I then brought this letter along with a picture of the pistol serial plate to the permit office. I paid my fee and they put it on my permit with my model and serial number!

After and ONLY after the pistol is on your permit can you actually begin building the pistol past it's 80% form. Both of my builds I did went nice and smoothly and I have 2 fully functional homebuilds on my permit! Please feel free to message me if there are any specific information you need that I left out.

Remember, this is different depending on which county you live in and their pistol permit department. I can only speak for Erie County pistol permit department where I completed this. It also depends on whom you talk to in the department. I initially was told I could NOT do this. But, I called back and spoke to someone higher up that was familiar with the homebuild process. So, call your permit office and ask them before attempting this. IF they say "NO it's not possible", ask to speak to a supervisor. The NYSP are familiar and allow this homebuild procedure. So, you may need to get email confirmation from NYSP to show to your permit office if they are fighting you.
 
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