[zorronzeke]

So I submitted my concealed weapon permit several weeks ago and understand that there is a 6 month wait involved. I moved back here from Virginia back in December of 2011. I had my concealed weapons permit down there and also bought a Springfield XDM .40 Caliber pistol. The gun is currently still in Virginia with my ex. **Despite a rough break up, she was kind enough to let me leave it down there until I attained my concealed weapons permit in NYS** What steps would I have to take to bring the pistol into NYS lawfully?

Would I have to get the serial number and proof of purchase (Bought it at a Bass Pro Shop) or are there other steps I would have to take? Thanks for any help you can give me.

 

[Evild]

You have to have it shipped to a FFL in NY who can then transfer it to you.

 

[RM08]

^ that. and i would recommend talking to the ffl to see if they could take possession until you get your permit and hold it then once you get your permit transfer it to you. that way its not with an ex because 6 months + from now she might not be so nice or feel the same about holding it or sending it you once you have your permit.

 

[hermannr]

You have to have it shipped to a FFL in NY who can then transfer it to you.

Law quote please...he already owns the weapon. That he needs to get it put on his permit I understand...but it is already his, he is not tansfering it to anyone.

 

[RayKnobs]

Wasn't there a really long thread about this topic. I remember someone had 100 handguns out of state and doing FFL transfers on all of them would be crazy.


ATF FAQ

Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

 

[Bob]

Sell the gun in Virginia. You can't use it in NY anyway.

Pre-ban magazines aren't available for it, nor are 10-round magazines.

 

[Dieter122]

You have to have it shipped to a FFL in NY who can then transfer it to you.

this about sums it up

 

[Catfish787]

Sell the gun in Virginia. You can't use it in NY anyway.

Pre-ban magazines aren't available for it, nor are 10-round magazines.

Can't you just mod the magazine by putting a stopper in it so it will only take 10 rounds?

 

[DystruktoBoi1]

Law quote please...he already owns the weapon. That he needs to get it put on his permit I understand...but it is already his, he is not tansfering it to anyone.

His ex can't ship it to him she in not an FFL, ONLY an FFL can ship over state lines, so yes he needs to ship it to an FFL and they will charge a transfer fee for receiving and holding it for him, unless he has an FFL buddy who can do it for free.

 

[RayKnobs]

His ex can't ship it to him she in not an FFL, ONLY an FFL can ship over state lines,

not true, the ATF website say otherwise

 

[Evild]

Wasn't there a really long thread about this topic. I remember someone had 100 handguns out of state and doing FFL transfers on all of them would be crazy.

ATF FAQ

Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

But, you would be shipping a gun you can't take possession of until it is on your permit buy state law. There may or may not be a law that says you have to do that if you own it legally in another state, nor am I going to bother looking, but I can pretty much guarantee your asking for a carp load of trouble if you go to the PP department and try to register it.

 

[mk10]

Since you already own the gun, you don't have to go through a FFL to legally transfer it--what's the point of legally transferring it from yourself to yourself? However, in order to possess the gun in NY, you DO need to have it registered and put on your NYS pistol license. Herein is where the problem lies: part of the gun registration process involves having a P-12 form filled out and sent to the State Police in Albany (the P-12 form needs to be filled out by a FFL with a NYS dealer/gunsmith license). There are procedures in place in many counties to register out-of-state firearms and circumvent the NYS dealer P-12 process--but since many of the county clerk's office employee's don't know the process, they simply tell people that they "need to have it transferred through a FFL".

 

[waldershrek]

Sell the gun in Virginia. You can't use it in NY anyway.

Pre-ban magazines aren't available for it, nor are 10-round magazines.

Sadly this whole thread is a wash because of this

 

[goperfect]

^^ What he said. Sell it

 

[goNYG]

So I submitted my concealed weapon permit several weeks ago and understand that there is a 6 month wait involved. I moved back here from Virginia back in December of 2011. I had my concealed weapons permit down there and also bought a Springfield XDM .40 Caliber pistol. The gun is currently still in Virginia with my ex. **Despite a rough break up, she was kind enough to let me leave it down there until I attained my concealed weapons permit in NYS** What steps would I have to take to bring the pistol into NYS lawfully?

Would I have to get the serial number and proof of purchase (Bought it at a Bass Pro Shop) or are there other steps I would have to take? Thanks for any help you can give me.

Don't know the particulars about Steuban Co. but I think this appiles across NY state...you have to get a pistol permit from your county and have someone in VA ship the firearm to a FFL up here. When you have your permit, you can pick up your gun at the FFL. On your application, you'll have to list the firearm and its serial number but no proof of purchase req'd. Again, in Steuban I don't know, but where I live a CC permit is a fantasy, won't happen. Regular ole' permit (i.e. target, hunting, etc.) will have to do.

 

[RayKnobs]

...you have to get a pistol permit from your county and have someone in VA ship the firearm to a FFL up here. When you have your permit, you can pick up your gun at the FFL. .

I think you missed the point, he is going to ship after it's been added to his permit. If he wanted the gun in NY before he had permit it would have to be held by a FFL. After it's on his permit he will be sending himself his own gun. No transfer of ownership. ATF says OK as long as he's legal to own it in both locations. (no shipping of the magazine)

 

[Bob]

Sadly this whole thread is a wash because of this

Yup. Reading comprehension. Fail.

 

[REdwin89]

Don't you just love it when a guy asks an important question and doesn't respond to all the answers given?

 

[zorronzeke]

I appreciate all of the feedback. I need to look into the magazine issue more thoroughly though. But I still have months to go before I hear anything in regards to my application. I know that all of my character references have been called and that was a month ago, so hopefully within the next few months I will hear something.

Again, thanks for all of the input. I will look into the magazine issue, as well as using an FFL to ship... It would be great if I could register it before it is even brought into the state though.

But if worst comes to worst, I'll just move to Pennsylvania. My concealed permit is good there (from VA).