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Very true, however I don't recall the last time I have seen other religions protest through out the entire world about nothing. It's funny that they hate America and record the flag burnings on I phones.

Agreed. There are extremists in every religion, or at least there are people masquerading as religious during their actions to justify them for their own means. The problem with Islam is that it universally demands a violent response to any criticism of itself. Often the Islamic extremists are those who adhere to their faith the closest.

 

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One in four in this world are Muslim. If all Muslims were violent, wouldn't our planet be charred earth by now?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Islam. As someone who hates all religion, I can honestly say, without bias, that Islam is one of the worst, but to act as if violence is a fundamental part of the faith is dishonest. By fundamental, I'm not talking about what's encouraged in holy books, I'm talking about in practice. If we were talking about holy books, then you would also have to admit that violence is a fundamental part of Christian doctrine since the bible is rife with sanctioned violence.

I wasn't trying to imply that Muslims as a whole are violent. That would indeed be dishonest. I was saying that their "Prophet" demands that any insult to him or to Allah demands a violent response. The difference I see between Christianity and Islam is that if Muslims followed their Koran and their prophet to the letter, the planet probably would be charred earth by now. If Christians followed the Bible's teaching to the letter, the world would be a lot better. Not trying to make this a religious discussion per say, I just think Christianity as a whole is a lot more tolerant than Islam. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that's what makes this country great.

 

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You do realize the bible calls for the death of gays, non-believers in their god, people who have sex before marriage, people who curse their parents, adulterers, anybody who doesn't listen to a priest, and anybody who works on Sunday, among many other things right?

Seems like a pretty darn intolerant religion to me.

I was referring to the Bible as a whole, not just the Old Testament. The law in the Old Testament applied to the Israelite nation until Jesus came. When I said Christianity was tolerant I meant the New Testament teachings of Jesus. I should have said if every Christian followed the example Jesus set, the world would be a better place. My mistake

 

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Like bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City?

Timothy McVeigh was a self-professed agnostic. He was raised Catholic, and that's as far as calling him a Christian can go.
As for the Old Testament, the things in the law are not null and void. The New Testament makes it clear that breaking the Ten Commandments is still a sin. The difference is that instead of condemnation for sin, we have forgiveness through Jesus. Again, your choice is to believe what you want. I appreciate the reasonable discussion though, it's nice not to have the usual shouting match that goes along with religious discussion.

 

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Oh, I should also mention that right before his execution, McVeigh took the Catholic sacrament of the anointing the sick. He was raise catholic and yes, at one point, he claimed he was agnostic.

In other words, I wouldn't put too much stock in what he "claimed" to be because he was simply crazy.

Agreed. He was definitely crazy. Just don't blame all Christians for one nutjob that attended church sometime somewhere.

I know the original topic is somewhat religion related but let's get back on the path of the original post. Not arguing about what the bible says.

Fine by me. I like guns, you like guns, we can agree on that!