Transporting rifle and ammo to the range
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Mine are not in a locked case. they are unloaded with actions open and the ammo in not in the case but in the vehilcle with me and salso not loced up. My mags are NOT loaded. From what I remember the mags loaded vs unloaded is the gray area. I think theres is wording about it being unloaded in chamber and mag.. I am sure someone here has links to previous threads (I suck with the search tools here)
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I do very similarly. Guns are in a case. Magazines for guns that take them are either in the case with them or in my backpack, and all relevant ammo is in said backpack. Since I have a pickup, there's little to no separation between them. I remember reading somewhere once that in cars, the guns (or ammo) should be in the truck, and the ammo (or guns) should be in the front, essentially requiring you to stop the car, get out, and retrieve the necessary equipment prior to being able to shoot it.
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As the saying goes, don't break more than one law at a time.
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Now I onow nothing about the rules in the communist burroughs of NYC but in the rest of the stae there is no such requirement. We are talking about long guns here. Now I do believe there may be requirements when traveling out of state but this is to the range. So i n reality you could stack them all together in the front seat with you. we do it all the time hunting when we don't want to place a wet gun in a case.
so it sounds simple the not have a loaded firearm in a automobile but the definition of loaded is the hard part.
“Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm.
“Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm.
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http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/laws-politics/21214-loaded-long-gun-mags-car.html
There are 4 pages of comments on the subject on this thread. With quoted laws.
There are 4 pages of comments on the subject on this thread. With quoted laws.
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Well I seperate everything, years ago when I was 18, I was shooting trap at my grandfathers and was driving back home....now in retrospect I did screw up, I was driving 52 in a 45, got pulled over, the officer walked up to my window instantly stepped back and drew his weapon screaming at me "why do you have a twelve gauge in the truck?" well I was shocked and said the first thing that came to mind...."it's a twenty gauge sir..." Anyways it might be legal to do this or that but just for $hits and giggles I try to 'appear' legit and seperate everything. JMO
I was at a range a while back and had a soft sided case with unloaded rifle inside and loaded mags in the side pocket. RSO must have seen it and told me it wasn't a good idea. He told me to buy a range bag for mags, ammo and other accessories and it didn't matter if I through them on top of one another as long as ammo and mags were in a separate bag than the gun. Didn't matter if mags were loaded or if anything was locked. Take it for whatever its worth, but I left the store with a range bag and have been following his advice ever since.
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Too awesome.
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You can still do that... just not in NY
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Looks like you are quoting NYS penal law. Definition of firearm there does not include long guns.
I keep any firearms in their respective hard-cases, unloaded. For the .22 rifles, the magazines are in the rifle, but there is no ammunition in it. Ammo is kept in a separate bag.
the only firearm that is loaded in the vehicle is the one I'm carrying.
I do this mostly so that, as I bump along these wonderful NY roads, and the barrel swings around and points toward me or any passenger, there is NO CHANCE that a non-intentional discharge could happen.
My carry stays in its holster, and if by some chance there is a ND, it will go through the seat and floor and not endanger passengers. I will never place my carry in the center console while driving. too difficult to get at if needed, and the bouncing around would make me nervous.
the only firearm that is loaded in the vehicle is the one I'm carrying.
I do this mostly so that, as I bump along these wonderful NY roads, and the barrel swings around and points toward me or any passenger, there is NO CHANCE that a non-intentional discharge could happen.
My carry stays in its holster, and if by some chance there is a ND, it will go through the seat and floor and not endanger passengers. I will never place my carry in the center console while driving. too difficult to get at if needed, and the bouncing around would make me nervous.
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I always put my guns in a case. Not because of any legal issue, but just to protect them from damage, especially the ones with a scopes.
I always carry my ammo in a ammo box. I have been stopped several times with the weapon cases and ammo in plane site and have never had an issue with LEO.
The only time any LEO said anything was when I was stopped for speeding and a Trooper asked me where I was going hunting?
It must be my good looks and charm:rofl:
I always carry my ammo in a ammo box. I have been stopped several times with the weapon cases and ammo in plane site and have never had an issue with LEO.
The only time any LEO said anything was when I was stopped for speeding and a Trooper asked me where I was going hunting?
It must be my good looks and charm:rofl:
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