[GUNSICK1]

I'm thinking it could end up to being a disaster. The Feds say they are prepared for an outbreak in the US but they are never ready for any type of disaster. Just them saying they are really scares me!

2 American Ebola patients heading to U.S.

Ebola outbreak: The U.S. is ready, experts say - CNN.com

Massive emergency drill in New York City - New York News

 

[androokwomo]

They should fly the long way - over Ukraine.

But hey! What could possibly go wrong??

 

[VARMINT223]

The quarantine-treatment trailer/system should be sent to them at the source not vise versa. On the flip side TSA/US Customs gets to see them first.

 

[swilliamsny]

I thought there was no treatment for Ebola. So why risk bringing an infected person over here? I suppose it's possible that we have some secret treatment, but I doubt it. Just make them comfortable where they are and hope for the best.

 

[ProgSpear]

I thought there was no treatment for Ebola. So why risk bringing an infected person over here?

Because our entire government is full of insanely ideological statists that think an outbreak of ebola within CONUS would be the perfect reason to declare martial law and completely nullify the constitution.

 

[Norm DeGuerre]

Ebola's "Patient Zero" Has Been Identified: Global Transmission Has Begun Posted on July 30, 2014 by Dave Hodges

Patrick Sawyer, a U.S. citizen, died of Ebola in Nigeria. What if he would have brought the virus to our shores?

It is now being reported that Patrick Sawyer, whose sister also died from Ebola, was allowed on two ASKY Airlines flights in Liberia while infected with the deadly virus, Ebola, which painfully kills 90% of its victims.
Patient Zero, Patrick Sawyer, had a layover in Ghana then changed planes in Togo and flew to an international travel hub of Lagos, located in Nigeria. Nigeria is also the site of an Ebola outbreak. "The dad-of-three died five days after arriving in the city". His sister, with whom Sawyer had contact, died of Ebola. He should never have been allowed to board any plane.
A desperate search is on to find the hundreds of passengers who flew on the same jets as Sawyer. A total of 59 passengers and crew are estimated to have come into contact with Sawyer and effort is being made to track each individual down. There is an inherent problem with this "track down". Presumably, some of the passengers connected to other flights, which is known to be the case. Let's just say for the sake of argument that only 20 people, a low estimate given the nature of the airports that Sawyer was traveling in, were connecting to other flights, the spread of the virus would quickly expand beyond any possibility of containment because in less than a half a day, nearly a half a million people would be potentially exposed. Within a matter of a couple of hours, Sawyer's infected fellow travelers would each have made contact with 200 other passengers and crew. Hours later, these flights would land and these people would go home to the friends, families and coworkers across several continents.
The fact is that the window for tracking down Sawyer's initial point of contact with the traveling public, has closed. Patient Zero has tipped the very first dominoes in what could prove to be the worst epidemic in human history.
Not to Worry Says the U.S. Government United States health officials say they are not worried because Ebola is transmitted through exposure to bodily fluids.
"…Witnesses say Sawyer, a 40-year-old Liberian Finance Ministry employee en route to a conference in Nigeria, was vomiting and had diarrhea aboard at least one of his flights with some 50 other passengers aboard. Ebola can be contracted from traces of feces or vomit, experts say". I would submit that it is time to get worried. And given the fact that we now know that Ebola detection kits have been deployed in National Guard unit kits in all 50 states.
We are either looking at gross negligence or a well-planned conspiracy.

 

[Norm DeGuerre]

=dupe=

 

[Airborneguy]

Ebola isn't airborne (at least not yet). It is not an easy virus to catch. Modern sanitation standards coupled with modern hospitals that follow protocols make it nearly impossible for Ebola to spread here in the US. I say this as someone who was sort of freaking out about this last week, did a ton of research, and had numerous conversations with my mother, sister, aunt, and friend (3 nurses, 1 doctor). They're all saying the same thing: it isn't something to worry about here.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Ebola isn't airborne (at least not yet). It is not an easy virus to catch. Modern sanitation standards coupled with modern hospitals that follow protocols make it nearly impossible for Ebola to spread here in the US. I say this as someone who was sort of freaking out about this last week, did a ton of research, and had numerous conversations with my mother, sister, aunt, and friend (3 nurses, 1 doctor). They're all saying the same thing: it isn't something to worry about here.

You got all OCD about it for a bit?

It's spread by body fluids. I would be sure to always wear gloves if I was a LEO.

 

[tirwin1]

James Woods tweeted this sounds like the beginning of a Stephen King novel.

I am glad others did their homework and are re-assured. However, how did the two health care providers contract the disease? I thought they were all suited up when they treated the patients, limited their time with them and then had a decontamination spray applied afterwards. If those types of precautions didn't work for them, how does the average person stand a chance?

What if the ebola virus mutates while it is here and becomes easier to transmit?

P.S. who are you calling paranoid?

 

[ECU Pirates]

James Woods tweeted this sounds like the beginning of a Stephen King novel.

I am glad others did their homework and are re-assured. However, how did the two health care providers contract the disease? I thought they were all suited up when they treated the patients, limited their time with them and then had a decontamination spray applied afterwards. If those types of precautions didn't work for them, how does the average person stand a chance?

What if the ebola virus mutates while it is here and becomes easier to transmit?

P.S. who are you calling paranoid?

I guess they are saying the conditions in Africa make transmission much easier. When it's all over and things are not sanitary (no disposable needles ect) it becomes easier to catch. That's what the experts say anyway. Please excuse me while I go tape up my windows and buy tons of bleach.

Two Americans infected with deadly Ebola virus in West Africa - CBS News

"It is a very dangerous infection and every medical person who takes care of these people understands, there is a risk, even if you are perfect in using all the gear," said William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University.
Fears of the outbreak have prompted neighboring Nigeria to screen incoming airline passengers for symptoms of the illness.
"The risk from casual contact from people who have come back from Africa is really zero, " Schaffner said. "It is the fact that you have to have very intimate contact with peoples' bodily fluids that puts you at risk.

 

[WARFAB]

If the worst case scenarios about how many people Patrick Sawyer exposed are true, then bringing these two known infected people into the US while using all the proper quarantine procedures is the least of our concerns.

I'm guessing that the reason these two infected individuals are being brought to the US are because there is a better chance of finding a treatment at state of the art facilities. If you really want to lose sleep at night, you can ask why two patients are being brought to the US and one patient was transferred to Germany NOW. This is not the first time there has been an ebola outbreak, but this is the first time patients have been transferred to developed countries for treatment.

I thought it was generally accepted that ebola kills 90% of the people who contract it. This ABC article says it kills 60%.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-patients-arrive-us/story?id=24804625

 

[Dion]

It's not the two being flown in a containment bubble we have to worry about.

With a three day incubation period, generally flights from that part of the world arrive in Paris for a 24 hour layover before continuing on to Newark or LaGuardia. Those are the flights you need to be concerned about.

 

[Airborneguy]

This current out break has killed around 60% of known patients because treatment has been quickly coordinated, relatively speaking. Historically, it is known to kill up to 90%. There are different strains though and this one isn't the worst known. The key to everything is that word: known. There could be thousands more victims being hidden by locals and in isolated villages. One of the biggest problems faced by doctors in this outbreak is convincing people that there is a disease at work and not some magical power or demon.

I told you, I've been doing my research.

 

[Airborneguy]

You got all OCD about it for a bit?

It's spread by body fluids. I would be sure to always wear gloves if I was a LEO.

And this is why I've been so concerned. If it comes here, it is bery likely that guys like me will be the first exposed, before the patients get to a hospital for diagnosis. Ebola is contagious before it becomes obvious that the person is not just a dirty druggie OD'ing on the street or someone with a severe flu, situations I encounter all the time.

 

[Cuomostein]

Liberia is the biggest dump on Earth. The conditions there are atrocious. I'm surprised they don't have Ebola outbreak more often there.

LiveLeak.com - West Point: The Worst Slum in Liberia, Beach Used as Dump And Outhouse

 

[Buell056]

As long as no Americans exchange fluids with them we are all safe. Honestly, I'd be more concerned of them getting HIV or AIDs from dirty needs in Liberia then dying from Ebola... They need safe clean medical conditions.

 

[Airborneguy]

Correction. I just finished reading an article that said this IS in fact the most deadly of the known types of the virus.

 

[Norm DeGuerre]

Liberia is the biggest dump on Earth. The conditions there are atrocious. I'm surprised they don't have Ebola outbreak more often there.

LiveLeak.com - West Point: The Worst Slum in Liberia, Beach Used as Dump And Outhouse

finally ...
a tropical vacation spot that I can afford

 

[sawman]

With this Ebola outbreak , we are seeing the border patrol coming down and infecting their families with other ( if not deadly , close to it ) dieseaes ! This administration is importing nothing but bad news from every part of the world he can to keep control over his job ! The article I read said that the border crossers don't even know how to use the toilet . It said the officers were " cleaning up the rooms after the crossers threw feces on the walls and floors plus threw the paper ( after it had been used ) on to the floor . This is a plan for complete takedown of the states via disease ! This ain't good !