Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum -
My wife and I applied for pistol permits in January for the purpose of starting a hobby in target shooting. We did our research on pistol licenses in NYS and westchester, and determined that there was really only one license that would allow for target shooting, which would be under "Carry Concealed" as one of the check boxes for license type was listed on the Westchester application.
At the interview we met with a very pleasant detective who talked us through the process, and confirmed that it was indeed an application for a "Carry Concealed" permit, but that with the submission of the target shooting addendum letter it will almost definitely be granted with the restriction for target shooting only. He also noted that it was extremely hard to get an unrestricted license in Westchester and that going for this restricted carry concealed license was the way to get things done. This seemed very straightforward and we completed the application as such.
Today I received a denial letter for both me and my wife, and the letter was quite strange. It was a decision by the county court to deny the permit because the application contained a "significant irregularity". Specifically, it stated that this was an application for a carry concealed permit with the restriction to target shooting, but that the dept of public safety did not treat this application as an application for a full carry permit but instead treated it as a permit for the purpose of target shooting and was therefore denied.
I find this very frustrating because I thought I was quite sure on the NYS laws that there was no such thing as a "target shooting license" and in fact the detective did confirm that at the interview, and of course we all know there is no check box for a target shooting license on the application form - --- just a full carry and the option to submit an addendum for target shooting restriction to be placed on it - which is exactly what we did.
They also stated that we failed to provide proper cause for a carry concealed permit including a special need for self-protection distinguishable from the general community. But this is ridiculous because our intention was to only carry concealed to and from the shooting range and we indicated that on the target shooting addendum attachment to the application!!
Before I call the permit office, which will now be on Monday given the weekend is here, I was wondering if anyone can make sense of this or has experienced something similar! I still fail to see how this makes sense seeing that there is only a carry concealed and a home/premises license available for application in NYS and that in order to take the gun outside of the house for any reason including target shooting, a carry concealed permit must be applied for and then the Judge was to restrict the license for carry only in transit to/from and at the shooting range!
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Sincerely,
Pete Zambito
My wife and I applied for pistol permits in January for the purpose of starting a hobby in target shooting. We did our research on pistol licenses in NYS and westchester, and determined that there was really only one license that would allow for target shooting, which would be under "Carry Concealed" as one of the check boxes for license type was listed on the Westchester application.
At the interview we met with a very pleasant detective who talked us through the process, and confirmed that it was indeed an application for a "Carry Concealed" permit, but that with the submission of the target shooting addendum letter it will almost definitely be granted with the restriction for target shooting only. He also noted that it was extremely hard to get an unrestricted license in Westchester and that going for this restricted carry concealed license was the way to get things done. This seemed very straightforward and we completed the application as such.
Today I received a denial letter for both me and my wife, and the letter was quite strange. It was a decision by the county court to deny the permit because the application contained a "significant irregularity". Specifically, it stated that this was an application for a carry concealed permit with the restriction to target shooting, but that the dept of public safety did not treat this application as an application for a full carry permit but instead treated it as a permit for the purpose of target shooting and was therefore denied.
I find this very frustrating because I thought I was quite sure on the NYS laws that there was no such thing as a "target shooting license" and in fact the detective did confirm that at the interview, and of course we all know there is no check box for a target shooting license on the application form - --- just a full carry and the option to submit an addendum for target shooting restriction to be placed on it - which is exactly what we did.
They also stated that we failed to provide proper cause for a carry concealed permit including a special need for self-protection distinguishable from the general community. But this is ridiculous because our intention was to only carry concealed to and from the shooting range and we indicated that on the target shooting addendum attachment to the application!!
Before I call the permit office, which will now be on Monday given the weekend is here, I was wondering if anyone can make sense of this or has experienced something similar! I still fail to see how this makes sense seeing that there is only a carry concealed and a home/premises license available for application in NYS and that in order to take the gun outside of the house for any reason including target shooting, a carry concealed permit must be applied for and then the Judge was to restrict the license for carry only in transit to/from and at the shooting range!
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Sincerely,
Pete Zambito