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My daughter's yearly checkup is in a few weeks. If her pediatrician asks me if I own any firearms, do I have to answer? Should I lie? Tell her to drop dead?
So you're asked about firearms at a doctor's appointment....do you have to answer?
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NO! You don't have to answer the question. The question to you is do you trust the pediatrician to respect and secure your and your daughters' rights? Some vague questioning on your part like "Why do you ask?", may uncover a proactive, anti gun sentiment. In that case I would simply find another pediatrician. They're a dime a dozen. You should have some concerns because if she is an anti 2A activist, she can make trouble for you.
If you believe that she is a strong anti, then post the info here so that all can be warned. On the other hand, if she appears supportive then that should also be posted here.
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Ask her what color thong she has on.
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Just took my wifes mom to the doctor, no questions about firearms ownership but they did ask if she ever thought of hurting herself or others at anytime. She looked at them and said huh?
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If you respond with anything other than "No," they'll probably be able to tell you do. When asked this question, I answered with "It's none of your business."
Check out this thread.
http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/off-topic/39623-nurse-ask-me-if-i-own-any-guns.html
Check out this thread.
http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/off-topic/39623-nurse-ask-me-if-i-own-any-guns.html
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my kids doctor asked my wife that question about 3 months back... she said no and im glad she did because its none of their damn business.
and as pointed out if you respond in any other way than no, they are going to assume you do and if they are major anti 2a they can make trouble.
if a doctor asked me i would ask them what does that have to do with my visit? and i would inform them that i find it offensive that they ask a personal question like that, and id probably ask them a personal question that would make them uncomfortable. and without a doubt id be finding a new doctor. as for my kids doctor asking that question, it actually really pisses me off and i may find another doctor, and may not. if he ever asks again there is no question that he will have lost several patients.
and as pointed out if you respond in any other way than no, they are going to assume you do and if they are major anti 2a they can make trouble.
if a doctor asked me i would ask them what does that have to do with my visit? and i would inform them that i find it offensive that they ask a personal question like that, and id probably ask them a personal question that would make them uncomfortable. and without a doubt id be finding a new doctor. as for my kids doctor asking that question, it actually really pisses me off and i may find another doctor, and may not. if he ever asks again there is no question that he will have lost several patients.
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You do not have to answer. An antagonistic answer or deliberately vague will get more eyebrows raised than a polite "I'd rather not answer." My wife (a family MD asks...) They just want to know if they are inaccessible to children. She asks for the same reason and with the same interest as "Do you look both ways before crossing the street?"
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Was asked that at my last visit a month ago...I replied that I'd rather not answer questions that aren't related to my visit.
The nurse said "I'll mark 'No'" and that was the end of it.
The more difficult question for me is how to address that with my daughter. She is getting to the age where Daddy does not need to be in the room for the entire visit so I am unsure how to direct her to reply if asked when my wife or I are not present.
I would rather not teach her to lie and its a tight rope I walk on a regular basis to teach the kids to be decent people and not sheep at the same time.
Right now I have instructed her to only respond to health questions and to direct other question to us. Annuals are coming up for school so we shall see how that goes.
Pretty shi**y world we live in when you have to teach your kids to dance around governmental intrusion.
The nurse said "I'll mark 'No'" and that was the end of it.
The more difficult question for me is how to address that with my daughter. She is getting to the age where Daddy does not need to be in the room for the entire visit so I am unsure how to direct her to reply if asked when my wife or I are not present.
I would rather not teach her to lie and its a tight rope I walk on a regular basis to teach the kids to be decent people and not sheep at the same time.
Right now I have instructed her to only respond to health questions and to direct other question to us. Annuals are coming up for school so we shall see how that goes.
Pretty shi**y world we live in when you have to teach your kids to dance around governmental intrusion.
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That is a valid question and is a sign of a competent doctor especially one treating elderly patients since the suicide rate in that age group is quite high. No problem here.
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You handled that well. The child doesn't have to lie but she should also be taught to protect her privacy. She has to understand the concept of her rights and that all people in positions of authority may not be acting in her best interest. Use this as a valuable teaching opportunity.
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My point of view is that nothing in your medical records is protected from government intrusion anymore. Which means that, unfortunately and to the detriment of your health, you must now lie or refuse to respond when it comes to anything that might be recorded.
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Use it as a teaching opportunity. Ask the doctor the purpose of the question. It's most likely that they've got literature about safe storage of firearms to avert 'firearms injuries' that they'd like to hand out or to talk about. Tell them you think that's an excellent idea and ask them if you can put a bunch of NRA or SCOPE or NYSRPA flyers in their lobby as all of those organizations can provide their patients with information. Point out it would be good for everyone to be educated on this whether they own guns or not.
The real trick, though, is when your kids are old enough, how are they going to answer the questions about guns in the house when the doctor asks them. Mine have been instructed to give no answer but "ask my parents".
Oh, and of course, in the end be sure not to give them an answer that has anything to do with gun ownership in your house.
The real trick, though, is when your kids are old enough, how are they going to answer the questions about guns in the house when the doctor asks them. Mine have been instructed to give no answer but "ask my parents".
Oh, and of course, in the end be sure not to give them an answer that has anything to do with gun ownership in your house.
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Right...so when the Furor (not him obviously but his henchman) go through your medical records since you are a pistol permit holder and pistol owner and they see that you said you do not have any firearms in the house...is there any legal trouble? Can they say you are a liar and maybe need mental help? Just wondering...seems like a lose lose to me. If asked, I would say No anyway and hope that the form just gets put in a folder somewhere but this day and age, who knows???
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I say "None of your F'n business"......"Drop Dead" works, too! LOL
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You make a very good point, but I'm assuming that simply never seeking medical help is not a realistic solution for most of us.
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I don't see that as being any better.
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