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Ok, I purchased a S&W M&P Shield recently and absolutely loved it.
Now I am considering trading/selling my Glock 17 for a Full Size S&W M&P 9mm.
I have never really been a huge fan of Glock's in general but after down grading my pistol inventory to one gun about a year ago it was the 'practical' choice to keep at the time.
Anyone got any things to watch out for in the full M&P frame, or general positive or negative feedback at all?
 

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well i if i were you i would in a heartbeat... im probably gonna trade my G23 in for a MP FS 40 or 9mm in the coming months
 

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I shoot my m&p better than my Glock. I'm going to swap glocks for smiths I think.
 

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I shoot my m&p better than my Glock. I'm going to swap glocks for smiths I think.
That is exactly why I am considering the change.
I can shoot the 'Shield' better than my full size G17.
Only reason I have not done it yet as I am not sure if my duty and CCW G17 holsters will still hold the Full Size M&P.
Anyone in the Niagara County area have a full size M&P that might be willing to let me test the fit.
 

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That is exactly why I am considering the change.
I can shoot the 'Shield' better than my full size G17.
Only reason I have not done it yet as I am not sure if my duty and CCW G17 holsters will still hold the Full Size M&P.
Anyone in the Niagara County area have a full size M&P that might be willing to let me test the fit.
I don't think they will fit sadly.
 

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If you have the opportunity to go with a .40, they accept a 9 mm barrel. You can't got from 9 to .40 though. Just food for thought.
 

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Grip angle on the Smith is nicer by far. I shoot better w/a full sized Glock than i do S&W M&P, both 40 cal. Trigger IMO is sloppier on the S&W, and the slide catch is also lighter. I hate to say it, but I honestly prefer the Glock.
 

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Not to throw a wrench into the mix ( oh yes I am ) there is a new sig out that allows you to swap frames to have either a full size or a compact . They seem to be very interesting little guns ! I never shot one but I have read a lot about the concept , it seems to be something to check into before swapping off pistols . Just trying to help .
 

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I like both smiths and glocks. If you shoot a smith better and it fits your hand nicely, go for it. For myself, each design has pros and cons, I like the stock glock trigger better (although replacement parts from apex make the smith a joy to shoot), I like the ergos and controls of the smith better as well as the stock sights even though I change sights on all of my pistols, the glock grip is a little bit more "grippy" than the smith. Soooo both are sweet, just a matter of what flavor you prefer.
 

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Ted,

got your message about the N82's for FS M&P let me know, I will give you the price I quoted. On a side note, I am a huge Glock fan boy and embrace them but with that being said if money was no option I would continue my Sig collection, back to the topic. I have M&P's, and Glock's. I shoot the M&P much better than my Glock. Recoil is the same in my perception so don't let that be a factor, the grip and point of aim on the M&P just seems better to me and they are nice, with that being said I just added another Glock to my collection and need to take it out for a drive this weekend. I think you should go with what feels better to you, and I am 99% sure the M&P and Glock will not interchange on holsters unless some sort of softer leather.

If you go with a M&P I would go with a .40 and get a conversion barrel for 9mm if you really want to diversify. Let me know when and if you want to dump the G17, maybe I can work out a deal with you for a M&P.
 

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I wouldn't trade my Glock 17 for a full size M&P9. I wouldn't for several reasons.

-M&Ps have a crappy trigger. The take up is long, the reset isn't very positive and they feel sloppy.
-M&Ps have extra safties I don't want or need. Sure there are optionsbut I want a pistol that can fire without a magazine, and doesn't have an internal lock, or an internal swith to feild strip.
-My Glock isn't broken. It's reliable and delivers the performace I demand of it everytime. As long as I bring my best to the table, so does she.
-I have alot of time practicing my Glock's manipulation, and am very familiar with exactly where the slide lever, magazine release are when my thumb goes looking for them.
-I have two Glock holsters and three magazines.
-I have invested in nice new sights for my Glock.

Will I get an M&P eventually? Probably, I'd like an M&P 45 when I get around to it. But I certainly wouldn't trade my Glock for a Smith. They are good guns, with a huge following. I'm sure they are every bit as good as a Glock for many people. But honestly, I don't see a benefit in switching.

Is it possible you could buy an M&P and keep your Glock? Friends don't let friend's sell guns. Regardless of brand.
 

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Is it possible you could buy an M&P and keep your Glock? Friends don't let friend's sell guns. Regardless of brand.[/QUOTE]

Keeping the Glock and buying the S&W is not really a practical option at this point due to my wife being off work for the last 5 months (and for at least 2 more) and the financial ramifications of that.
In a perfect world I would love to be able to try the S&W at the range to see if the full size is as comfortable to shoot as the Shield.
 

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Ted,

got your message about the N82's for FS M&P let me know, I will give you the price I quoted. On a side note, I am a huge Glock fan boy and embrace them but with that being said if money was no option I would continue my Sig collection, back to the topic. I have M&P's, and Glock's. I shoot the M&P much better than my Glock. Recoil is the same in my perception so don't let that be a factor, the grip and point of aim on the M&P just seems better to me and they are nice, with that being said I just added another Glock to my collection and need to take it out for a drive this weekend. I think you should go with what feels better to you, and I am 99% sure the M&P and Glock will not interchange on holsters unless some sort of softer leather.

If you go with a M&P I would go with a .40 and get a conversion barrel for 9mm if you really want to diversify. Let me know when and if you want to dump the G17, maybe I can work out a deal with you for a M&P.
I appreciate the trade offer and while I wont rule it out with you, I do think it will be financially impractical. My local store charges $70 for outgoing and $40 for incoming pistol shipments. With that taken into consideration I think it will be more practical to sell the G17 (3rd gen) and buy a M&P (used most likely) unless I find someone local that is interested in a trade?
And I am only interested in 9mm. Its an Australian thing!
 

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9mm M&Ps also had some major accuracy issues for a while. This may or may not be resolved by now, the point is make sure you do your homework on the serial number and stampings on the barrel and other parts on any Smith you buy.

I don't see why you'd want to trade something that works and is a known quantity for something new if there isn't anything wrong with the Glock.
 

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M&Ps can be field stripped without flipping the internal switch- you just have to pull the trigger then you can field strip. The switch was put it to prevent the stupid person who forgot to safety check before field stripping (i.e. too many to name- some being congress people) The other safety stuff is usually mandated by states like MA and CA. The M&P I have does not have the mag interlock or a external manual safety. Most of the m&ps I have seen sold in NY do not have the mag interlock or manual external safety.
 

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9mm M&Ps also had some major accuracy issues for a while. This may or may not be resolved by now, the point is make sure you do your homework on the serial number and stampings on the barrel and other parts on any Smith you buy.

I don't see why you'd want to trade something that works and is a known quantity for something new if there isn't anything wrong with the Glock.
I agree, if its not broken, don't fix it. However, just because IT functions flawlessly does not mean than I DO! I do not shoot it as well as I would like. I would like to carry the weapon I am most proficient at, with all other factors being equal.
I have owned several compact/sub compact pistols and up until the S&W Shield, have found them somewhat 'squirrely' to shoot accurately and consistently.
As I shot the Shield so well, it has made me look into the possibility (not committed yet) of the change.

The other reason, and this is very important -
Its a new toy and, at least in my mind, I am trying to justify a reason to go play with something new.
Its a 'grass is greener.....' kind of thing.
 

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The weapon your most proficent with is probably a rifle, lol.

If you can't afford a new pistol outright I wouldn't bother switching at all. With a used gun you never know what your getting unless you get the chance to shoot it first. I've heard many stories where a gun looked flawless so they picked it up, only to find FTF, FTE, BTF and other issues. That goes for any brand of firearm (I'm trying had not to be a Glock fanboy here. I only own 1 and my next is a 1911 I hope). Maybe you would be best off training yourself to shoot the Glock better.

Out of curiosity have you shot a Gen4 with a beavertail/backstrap? When I got my gen4 it was okay, but felt just a little off. I put the medium sized beavertail on it and it feels more natural and I group better with it. You can get grip force adapter for a Gen3 that serves the same purpose. Maybe that could help you improve your shooting with the Glock for now, while you save up to get the M&P once your wife is doing better?
 

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There is nothing too exciting about the glock. The only thing is whenever you pull the trigger it works as expected EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Glock = AK of the pistols.

Trade the most popular pistol in the planet for .....
 

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Hell, I think I will just sell my car and buy a Les Baer and be done with it?
Thanks for the feedback everyone, I have a pretty good idea of how I am going to proceed, or not, as it were?
 

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I suggest anyone looking to get an MP9.. check out HK VP9... i went in with the intent with MP but the HK is so much better feeling and the trigger... ohhh the trigger is amazing
 
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