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Well, the NY Post offers prayer to save NY from the evils of legal firearms owners and those who might carry lawfully! Confounds them with the criminal activity that is on the upswing. Not to bright.

 

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Most of them have been bought and paid for by the liberal anti Americans
 
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It can only go one of two ways, positive, or very negative. I fear you may be right.
We'd better hope it goes positive. Because that leaked SCOTUS draft just completely changed the direction of the 2022 and 2024 elections. This obsession with abortion is going to cost us our gun rights and more.
 

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We'd better hope it goes positive. Because that leaked SCOTUS draft just completely changed the direction of the 2022 and 2024 elections. This obsession with abortion is going to cost us our gun rights and more.
Now I whole heartedly agree with that, this couldnt come at a worse time, we were just 6 months from taking the House and Senate back from the loony left. This is a tremendous set back.
 

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I see the SCOTUS leak the other way: the argument to reverse roe pretty much says they would support the pro gun case.

I'm not to worried about midterms yet. Kavanaugh's confirmation was in summer before midterms and majority of the country hated how he was treated but it was still to far off from the election to have real sway. People seem to only care what happens the month before the election.
 

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This leak may not affect 2A as much as some think. Yes, the Progressives are having meltdowns and going ballistic. There are States (NY ain't one) where abortion is highly regulated, to the point of almost banned. Others (NY is in this category, where it is legal to birth. What SCOTUS is saying is that abortion is not a right enumerated or mentioned (nor are any other medical procedures or financial coverage) in the Constitution. Therefore, it is up to the States to regulate abortion. Our politicritters have wasted enough NY taxpayer resources guaranteeing that any female in NYS can terminate pregnancy at any time.

2A rights ARE specifically mentioned in the Constitution; "shall not be infringed" tweak any memory? It seemed that at least 5 of the SCOTUS Justices seemed to understand that concept. 2 other issues, besides making the politicritters shall issue an Unrestricted license to carry Pistol or Revolver that need to be addressed are; getting rid of that infernal registration bureaucracy and allowing non-resident CCW privileges, with license from State of residence.

Next is permitless carry for all law abiding citizens. After that, dump the useless "assault weapon" ban and allow standard capacity magazines.
 

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I have had a very bad feeling about this case from the outset. I worry it will set us back, not bring us forward.

I hope I'm wrong.
Definitely could be a two edged sword. Even if the SCOUS decides in our favor, does anyone think that the downstate socialists will just roll over? They are already formulating legislation to react to any decision adverse to their ideology. So IMO it will just become status quo in the long run. I like you hope I am wrong.
 

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Even if the SCOUS decides in our favor, does anyone think that the downstate socialists will just roll over? They are already formulating legislation to react to any decision adverse to their ideology. So IMO it will just become status quo in the long run. I like you hope I am wrong.
Precisely correct. One of the issues that has become clear over the past decade is that our legal process is too slow and the courts do not have teeth. Courts across the country regularly ignored the "strict scrutiny" requirement set by Heller. SCOTUS can't do shit about it, and not a single one of those cases have even made it to SCOTUS yet.

So what will NY do if this case goes completely in our favor? They will pass laws that they know are in violation of the ruling, and wait years for the resulting cases to wind their way through the courts. Repeat forever.

I have a feeling that Thomas has been wanting to rule on this one for a long time. If the SC rules in our favor, Thomas is going to make sure to close any loopholes.
Maybe, but he can't stop the behavior I outlined above.

I don't know what the solution is. Maybe a way to bring criminal charges against politicians who pass laws that clearly violate court rulings? Seems like an exercise in futility that would eventually be abused in the most horrible ways.
 

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Precisely correct. One of the issues that has become clear over the past decade is that our legal process is too slow and the courts do not have teeth. Courts across the country regularly ignored the "strict scrutiny" requirement set by Heller. SCOTUS can't do shit about it, and not a single one of those cases have even made it to SCOTUS yet.

So what will NY do if this case goes completely in our favor? They will pass laws that they know are in violation of the ruling, and wait years for the resulting cases to wind their way through the courts. Repeat forever.


Maybe, but he can't stop the behavior I outlined above.

I don't know what the solution is. Maybe a way to bring criminal charges against politicians who pass laws that clearly violate court rulings? Seems like an exercise in futility that would eventually be abused in the most horrible ways.
I spoke to the local Sheriffs Dept that issues our permits here on Long Island. I was told that if it’s a clear cut black and white ruling, they will follow it to the letter. They are very pro 2A here. If it is a gray area and not explicit, they would then refer to the county attorney for clarification. I’m betting on Thomas to be very decisive and clear in his decision. I don’t think that he would want to provide any loopholes or gray areas to leave interpretation up to the state.
 

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I spoke to the local Sheriffs Dept that issues our permits here on Long Island. I was told that if it’s a clear cut black and white ruling, they will follow it to the letter. They are very pro 2A here. If it is a gray area and not explicit, they would then refer to the county attorney for clarification. I’m betting on Thomas to be very decisive and clear in his decision. I don’t think that he would want to provide any loopholes or gray areas to leave interpretation up to the state.
Taking a wild guess your sheriff is eastern Suffolk? Or do you deal with yaphank. I have to deal with yaphank being an islip resident.
 
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