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I posted this same post in the News Forum. I thought it was important so I am re-posting here. Hope that is okay.

As with any gun incident, the anti's are gonna come out. Just remember, the 2nd amendment is more than just words. There is true meaning behind the words. There also many other places in our Constitution that talks about items in the Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. - The United States Constitution, Amendment 2

There exists a large section of the population that seems confused about the second amendment. They argue that it is not a personal right, but rather the right of a state to operate it's own security force. They argue that this force today is called the State Guard.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... , keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, ... - The United States Constitution, Article 1 Section 10

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;... - The United States Constitution, Article 2 Section 2 Clause 1

Since Article 1 Section 10 says that no state may have it's own troops without the consent of Congress, but Article 2 Section 2 Clause 1 says that the President is the Commander in Chief of the militias of the several states when called into service, the two cannot possibly be the same thing. The Constitution would not use two different terms for the same thing, in one section prohibiting it and in the other declaring the command of it.

In addition to its National Guard, if any, a State, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands may, as provided by its laws, organize and maintain defense forces. A defense force established under this section may be used within the jurisdiction concerned, as its chief executive (or commanding general in the case of the District of Columbia) considers necessary, but it may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the armed forces. - United States Code 32 Section 109(c)

The State Guard system was established, with the consent of Congress, with the passing of Title 32. This means that the State Guard is not the militia, but the state troops referenced in Article 1 Section 10. Other people argue that the word "militia" is in reference to private citizens with arms. The only question is, is there any indication that is the case?

A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the People, being the best security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person. - Article the Fifth, House of Representatives August 24 1789

This is the text of what would become Amendment 2, as it was passed by the United States House of Representatives in August of 1789. The version that know today was passed by the United States Senate on September 9 1789. The above version is clear, it is a personal right of the people.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; - The United States Constitution, Article 1 Section 8 Clause 16

When the militias are to be called into actual service, Congress has the power to organize and arm the parts of the militias called into service. Even in this situation, when called into actual official duty under command of the President of the United States, the Constitution clearly says that the states have the authority to train the militias, while Congress has the authority to set training standards for those who actually serve. No power exists over those who do not serve.

All federal, state, and local gun control laws are unconstitutional since they violate the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.​

Sorry this is such a long post, I just think it is important to know and understand what it is that we fight for!
 

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I posted this same post in the News Forum. I thought it was important so I am re-posting here. Hope that is okay.

As with any gun incident, the anti's are gonna come out. Just remember, the 2nd amendment is more than just words. There is true meaning behind the words. There also many other places in our Constitution that talks about items in the Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. - The United States Constitution, Amendment 2

There exists a large section of the population that seems confused about the second amendment. They argue that it is not a personal right, but rather the right of a state to operate it's own security force. They argue that this force today is called the State Guard.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... , keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, ... - The United States Constitution, Article 1 Section 10

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;... - The United States Constitution, Article 2 Section 2 Clause 1

Since Article 1 Section 10 says that no state may have it's own troops without the consent of Congress, but Article 2 Section 2 Clause 1 says that the President is the Commander in Chief of the militias of the several states when called into service, the two cannot possibly be the same thing. The Constitution would not use two different terms for the same thing, in one section prohibiting it and in the other declaring the command of it.

In addition to its National Guard, if any, a State, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands may, as provided by its laws, organize and maintain defense forces. A defense force established under this section may be used within the jurisdiction concerned, as its chief executive (or commanding general in the case of the District of Columbia) considers necessary, but it may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the armed forces. - United States Code 32 Section 109(c)

The State Guard system was established, with the consent of Congress, with the passing of Title 32. This means that the State Guard is not the militia, but the state troops referenced in Article 1 Section 10. Other people argue that the word "militia" is in reference to private citizens with arms. The only question is, is there any indication that is the case?

A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the People, being the best security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person. - Article the Fifth, House of Representatives August 24 1789

This is the text of what would become Amendment 2, as it was passed by the United States House of Representatives in August of 1789. The version that know today was passed by the United States Senate on September 9 1789. The above version is clear, it is a personal right of the people.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; - The United States Constitution, Article 1 Section 8 Clause 16

When the militias are to be called into actual service, Congress has the power to organize and arm the parts of the militias called into service. Even in this situation, when called into actual official duty under command of the President of the United States, the Constitution clearly says that the states have the authority to train the militias, while Congress has the authority to set training standards for those who actually serve. No power exists over those who do not serve.

All federal, state, and local gun control laws are unconstitutional since they violate the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.​

Sorry this is such a long post, I just think it is important to know and understand what it is that we fight for!
Amen.........Get yer hands off my rightfully owned guns, or I will rightfully blow you away.
 

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That your analysis is correct is shown by the fact that the vast majority of the states have clauses in their state constatutions that read as such: Very hard to get around this wording....

Example from teh Washington State constitution, Article 1:

SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.
 
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