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I have a couple questions regarding a c&r. I had a c&r license nearly ten years ago and let it lapse. I originally obtained it in Ny, moved to Arizona and eventually the three years came and went. Didnt really feel a need to renew in AZ since everything was readily available amd easy to get. Many years later, I find myself back in the People's Republic of NY and I am thinking about getting a c&r again.

My questions are regarding any complications I may encounter with my old bound book and previous purchases. Specifically, would I need to merge my old bound book with a new one? Would old c&r purchases need to be included in the new book? If audited, would I have to show old c&r purchases as well as new ones? Finally, would allowing an 03 to lapse affect getting a new one in any way (I hope and assume that it wouldnt)?

Any advice, recommendations, or thoughts of merit regarding a situation such as this would be appreciated. Thanks.
 

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The only time your previously purchased guns would come into play is if you sold them.
At that time you would log that one gun in with your personal info then log it out to the new buyer.
Burn you old book and forget about them as they are your personal guns and no need to list them
as they were bought before you became licensed(new FFL).
 

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I can't find any legal souce about destroying the bound book. But I do know that a new license requires a new bound book, and at the very least you just stop entering into the old once when the license expires. The letter of the law mentions keeping records for 20 years, but later states that collectors don't have to keep business records. So WTF?
 

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Many people let their C&R expire just to keep the old purchases off the record.

1 day after your license expires, chuck the book. Start a blank one with a new license.
 

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Just came back to this post after a brief work related hiatus. Thanks for the information and the replies. The new application will be in the mail this week. I appreciate the help.
 

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Check the regs.
When I gave up my FFL, I had to send the book and 4473's to the national records center.
I think the rule is the same for any "licensed individual".
Of course, before you do so you sign over any personally guns to yourself (book them out to yourself).
 

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Don't want to hijack but I have a C&R question.
I own a SKS-45 all indications are produced in 1956. So this is C&R. Just as a owner ( Not C&R FFL) is there anything special I am supposed to do in regards to owning and possessing this rifle?
 

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This is only in regards to 03FFL records keeping. Nothing is needed otherwise.
 

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Check the regs.
When I gave up my FFL, I had to send the book and 4473's to the national records center.
I think the rule is the same for any "licensed individual".
Of course, before you do so you sign over any personally guns to yourself (book them out to yourself).
This is no longer a requirement. FFLs operating a business (not 03) need to send their business records over. 03s do not.

View image: atf bound book retention letter
 
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