[Goros]

Ruger 10/22 without a pistol grip is legal. 10rd mag must only have 7. 5rd mag is good to go.

pump shotguns are exempt by the text of the law, this list is wrong. Please stop posting it. This will take months to become accurate.

there is only 1 pump shotgun on there (rem 81404). It's not capable of holding 8+ rounds, nor is it semi.

Lever, slide, bolt, and pump guns are exempt, except revolver shotguns or guns with tube mags of 8 or more.

dont assume the cops that couldn't understand the last ban law suddenly understand this one.

 

[Goros]

Thats why I asked if glocks should have been placed on this list. The way I read it they can not be bought or sold in this state regardless of how many bullets are in the clip

Why would a Glock be banned? Handguns can't have threaded barrels, forward grips, mags protruding below the magwell, or barrel shrouds/flash hiders. Glocks have none of those things.

Confused.

ruger 10/22's have no forward grips, no flash hiders, no thumbhole stock or pistol grip (at least their basic version doesnt), no threaded barrels....

 

[Goros]

The only questions I haven't seen answered is "how much" for ammunition.

How much time will it take to do the background check against the as-yet uncreated state database?

How much money will it take us taxpayers to run the database?

How much ammunition triggers a call to the state police?

How much trouble will I get in when I purchase tons of ammo out of state and bring it home?

Doesnt matter right now, ammo law doesnt kick in until 1/15/14.

$10 for FTF 4473 is in the law, i would assume ammo would be the same, but it's probly up to the LGS.

Lots of money to run, to no benefit.

No idea how they are going to track (round count or dollar count)

None, if you can get someone out of state to sell to you, and assuming they have any to sell.

 

[Goros]

can i buy a semi auto out of ny and bring it back and register it within the year?

Not legally, no. Can you? Probably.

 

[Goros]

So can an AR stripped lower receiver still be sent to NY, it was legal a few days ago?

Hope so, yes. It's not an AW because it has no evil features (yet) even though it is a firearm.

 

[Goros]

dont jump so soon, the law as written does not define pump action guns as assault weapons.

additionally, any pistols you own that are on your permit dont have to be registered as they already are.

This.

List is bad and wrong currently. Ignore it.

 

[Goros]

Still want a conclusive answer on the legality of purchasing a pistol with 10 rd mags. Do we still have 90 days or not?

No. they can give you the pistol, but can't give you the mags. Sorry.

 

[Goros]

But can a stripped lower ever be built into a rifle at all? Because as a rifle it will automatically be on the NYSP list of banned rifles.

As long as you do it before the end of the registration date (1/15/14) and you register it, its fine. If you do it after that, you are committing a crime. Love my state. ****ING love it.

No restrictions on parts, uppers, parts kits, etc. just on the whole rifle.

 

[Goros]

No idea.

If it has a pistol grip, a flash hider/muzzle break/compensator, a collapsible or folding stock, thumbhole stock, a bayonet lug, or a grenade launcher AND is semi-auto with detachable magazines, it is an assault weapon.

I'm not looking up the specs of your gun. Sorry.

 

[Goros]

How will the state handle ammunition sales? I heard quite a few of my friends are having issues getting ammunition from shops. Either they're all out or simply won't sell.

the ammo parts of the law don't start till next year, it's in the body of the bill - which the LGS's can now look up for themselves. Once they see the effective date on it they will relax.

Just a matter of people panicking.

 

[Goros]

yep and the bad info is only getting worse. Rush and Beck have been throwing bad info out on it all week, even SE Cupp is wrong.

makes my head hurt.

 

[Goros]

No. This says that the NYSP has to create an accurate list showing FUDDs and morons who can't read what is and isn't a legal firearm that needs to be registered.

They have to update and maintain it, but they can't change the law.

it specifically states that it must be based off 265.xx, which means - IF IT ISN'T IN 265, IT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE LIST. Which coincidentally they took down today, and will have 30 some-odd amendments to incorporate into the bill, and which maybe will show up with an accurate list of firearms next time.

but I wouldn't count on it.