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I am a little confused on this subject. Back in jan when I read the safe act it appeared that if you had a pre 94 high cap mag you had till 4/15/13 to sell it out of state dispose or perma convert to 10 rounds. Now I am reading threads where people are saying as long as you dont load/use them and they dont leave your property you can keep them. Anyone know anything about this or is this misinformation thx.
 

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Reading the law a couple of times will help you. I don't usually go off what people say because it might not be correct.
 

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Okay. Let me try to help here.

You have until 4/15/13 to sell out of state dispose or convert permanently to 10 rounds. This is correct.

You can still use them anywhere in the state but only load 7 rounds. (10 at an approved range or whatever the ****)

If you are caught with them and do not know of the new law then you cannot be charged the first time and you have 30 days to comply. (Unless the state can prove you knew about the new law. Sorry for anyone reading this thread :eek:)

Since you know of the new law if you are caught with them you will be charged with a misdemeanor.

FOR ALL MAGAZINE RELATED FORUM QUESTIONS PLEASE REFER PEOPLE HERE ;)


23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, that (A) has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds of ammunition,

S 265.36 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
DEVICE.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS A LARGE CAPACI-
TY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH,
NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR,
AND IF SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED SUCH
LARGE CAPACITY FEEDING DEVICE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER
OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS
A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A REASONABLE BELIEF THAT SUCH DEVICE IS OF SUCH
A CHARACTER THAT IT MAY LAWFULLY BE POSSESSED AND WHO SURRENDERS OR
LAWFULLY DISPOSES OF SUCH DEVICE WITHIN THIRTY DAYS OF BEING NOTIFIED BY
LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS THAT SUCH POSSESSION IS
UNLAWFUL SHALL NOT BE GUILTY OF THIS OFFENSE.
IT SHALL BE A REBUTTABLE
PRESUMPTION THAT SUCH PERSON KNOWS THAT SUCH LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION
FEEDING DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED IF HE OR SHE HAS BEEN
CONTACTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS AND INFORMED
THAT SUCH DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED.
UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE IS A
CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.

S 265.37 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF CERTAIN AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS AN AMMUNITION
FEEDING DEVICE THAT SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE
DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED
THIS SECTION, THAT HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR
CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN SEVEN BUT LESS THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI-
TION, WHERE SUCH DEVICE CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
POSSESSED WITHIN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR, THE PERSON SO POSSESSING THE
DEVICE SHALL, FOR A FIRST OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF A VIOLATION AND SUBJECT
TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS,
AND FOR A SECOND OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF
A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR AND SUBJECT TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A
TERM OF UP TO THREE MONTHS IMPRISONMENT.
IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
POSSESSED IN ANY LOCATION OTHER THAN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR, THE
PERSON SO POSSESSING THE DEVICE SHALL, FOR A FIRST OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF
A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR AND SUBJECT TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A
TERM OF UP TO SIX MONTHS IMPRISONMENT,
AND FOR A SECOND OFFENSE, BE
GUILTY OF A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.
 

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As a regular Joe Schmo civilian you CANNOT in any way shape or form legally posses magazines that hold more than 10rds. Just this week someone was charged with safe violation because of magazines and there was no gun present just magazines.
 

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As a regular Joe Schmo civilian you CANNOT in any way shape or form legally posses magazines that hold more than 10rds. Just this week someone was charged with safe violation because of magazines and there was no gun present just magazines.
false, if the magazine is a post 94 mag it was illegal before the safe act and illegal now. if you had prebans you can still posses them until next year.
 

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I am a little confused on this subject. Back in jan when I read the safe act it appeared that if you had a pre 94 high cap mag you had till 4/15/13 to sell it out of state dispose or perma convert to 10 rounds.

This applies to magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds.


Now I am reading threads where people are saying as long as you dont load/use them and they dont leave your property you can keep them.

This applies to magazines that can hold more than 7 up to 10 rounds.

You can keep any mag that holds 10 or less but only load 7
You have to get rid of or convert any mag that holds more than 10
 

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Okay. Let me try to help here.

You have until 4/15/13 to sell out of state dispose or convert permanently to 10 rounds. This is correct.

You can still use them anywhere in the state but only load 7 rounds. (10 at an approved range or whatever the ****)

If you are caught with them and do not know of the new law then you cannot be charged the first time and you have 30 days to comply. (Unless the state can prove you knew about the new law. Sorry for anyone reading this thread :eek:)

Since you know of the new law if you are caught with them you will be charged with a misdemeanor.

FOR ALL MAGAZINE RELATED FORUM QUESTIONS PLEASE REFER PEOPLE HERE ;)


23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, that (A) has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds of ammunition,

S 265.36 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
DEVICE.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS A LARGE CAPACI-
TY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH,
NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR,
AND IF SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED SUCH
LARGE CAPACITY FEEDING DEVICE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER
OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS
A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A REASONABLE BELIEF THAT SUCH DEVICE IS OF SUCH
A CHARACTER THAT IT MAY LAWFULLY BE POSSESSED AND WHO SURRENDERS OR
LAWFULLY DISPOSES OF SUCH DEVICE WITHIN THIRTY DAYS OF BEING NOTIFIED BY
LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS THAT SUCH POSSESSION IS
UNLAWFUL SHALL NOT BE GUILTY OF THIS OFFENSE.
IT SHALL BE A REBUTTABLE
PRESUMPTION THAT SUCH PERSON KNOWS THAT SUCH LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION
FEEDING DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED IF HE OR SHE HAS BEEN
CONTACTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS AND INFORMED
THAT SUCH DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED.
UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE IS A
CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.

S 265.37 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF CERTAIN AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS AN AMMUNITION
FEEDING DEVICE THAT SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE
DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED
THIS SECTION, THAT HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR
CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN SEVEN BUT LESS THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI-
TION, WHERE SUCH DEVICE CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
POSSESSED WITHIN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR, THE PERSON SO POSSESSING THE
DEVICE SHALL, FOR A FIRST OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF A VIOLATION AND SUBJECT
TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS,
AND FOR A SECOND OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF
A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR AND SUBJECT TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A
TERM OF UP TO THREE MONTHS IMPRISONMENT.
IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
POSSESSED IN ANY LOCATION OTHER THAN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR, THE
PERSON SO POSSESSING THE DEVICE SHALL, FOR A FIRST OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF
A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR AND SUBJECT TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A
TERM OF UP TO SIX MONTHS IMPRISONMENT,
AND FOR A SECOND OFFENSE, BE
GUILTY OF A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.
If you are caught with them and do not know of the new law then you cannot be charged the first time and you have 30 days to comply

We currently have to comply within 30 days if we are caught with a preban? I thought that took affect in April 2014.
I was under the impression that as long as we only load 7 rounds in a preban, they can be used/owned until April of next year.
 

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I am a little confused on this subject. Back in jan when I read the safe act it appeared that if you had a pre 94 high cap mag you had till 4/15/13 to sell it out of state dispose or perma convert to 10 rounds. Now I am reading threads where people are saying as long as you dont load/use them and they dont leave your property you can keep them. Anyone know anything about this or is this misinformation thx.
Don't sell them!!! Find someone out of state to hold on to them until this dumba** law is repealed!!!
 

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Here's a big issue. Someone could purchase a magazine that is pre ban out of state and bring it into NYS. It would technically be illegal to buy this since you did not own it prior to the law. But the state would have a hard time proving you purchased it after Jan 13 if you used cash. Thus, you could have it until April 2014 but not load over 7 rds. I am not advocating anyone do this because it would be breaking the law. I am simply trying to point out how the law does not to prevent people who do not want to follow it from obtaining such devices.
 

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Here's a big issue. Someone could purchase a magazine that is pre ban out of state and bring it into NYS. It would technically be illegal to buy this since you did not own it prior to the law. But the state would have a hard time proving you purchased it after Jan 13 if you used cash. Thus, you could have it until April 2014 but not load over 7 rds. I am not advocating anyone do this because it would be breaking the law. I am simply trying to point out how the law does not to prevent people who do not want to follow it from obtaining such devices.
I meant give the ones you own to someone out of state. Not at all advocating buying more since it would be illegal.
 

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I don't know about you guys but my 458 socom 7 round magazine looks an awful lot like a usgi standard 20 rd and if I'm not mistaken my 10 rd 458 mag Shure does resemble a usgi 30 rd now I know it just can't be because my floorplate is stamped 458 socom 7 rounds and 10 rounds respectively
 
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