Pistol Law Question

Catfish787 · Oct 20, 2012

OK...

So I know you can't shoot a person's pistol w/o having a pistol permit yourself.

Now the question is, if I owned a PA pistol permit, for example, could I go to NY and shoot someone's pistol there, or is this not allowed?

I'll appreciate any help towards answering this question,

Thank you!

RayKnobs · Oct 20, 2012

silly catfish, this is NY. if ny could figured out how to require PA drivers to get a NY license they would

Catfish787 · Oct 20, 2012

RayKnobs said:
silly catfish, this is NY. if ny could figured out how to require PA drivers to get a NY license they would

I'm not good with innuendos, so does this mean no?

I would also appreciate it if someone could offer me where it might state this in the "law book", if anyone has that information.... if it exists on paper.

Thank you!

quadturbo · Oct 20, 2012

I don't think you're technically allowed to shoot another persons hand gun even if you have a permit, but you I could be wrong.

Catfish787 · Oct 20, 2012

quadturbo said:
I don't think you're technically allowed to shoot another persons hand gun even if you have a permit, but you I could be wrong.

Too many laws to keep up on, right?

Just trying to educate myself.

sr20sean · Oct 20, 2012

In short no

PA requires you to have a resident pistol permit in your home state(except vermont) in order to get a non resident pistol permit in PA.

You need a NY permit to shoot in NY. Unless you are under 21.

coolbreez67 · Oct 20, 2012

Catfish787 said:
OK...

So I know you can't shoot a person's pistol w/o having a pistol permit yourself.

Now the question is, if I owned a PA pistol permit, for example, could I go to NY and shoot someone's pistol there, or is this not allowed?

I'll appreciate any help towards answering this question,

Thank you!

Did you mean could you go to PA and shoot someones pistol there? Or did you mean if someone else had a PA permit, could they shoot here?

PA Guns & Ammo · Oct 21, 2012

Catfish787 said:
OK...

So I know you can't shoot a person's pistol w/o having a pistol permit yourself.

Now the question is, if I owned a PA pistol permit, for example, could I go to NY and shoot someone's pistol there, or is this not allowed?

I'll appreciate any help towards answering this question,

Thank you!

Technically the only time you can shoot another NY pistol permit holder's handgun is if you had the handgun added to your permit. Only the person who has the handgun on their permit is allowed to shoot it.

Gunner57 · Oct 21, 2012

SRV1 said:
Technically the only time you can shoot another NY pistol permit holder's handgun is if you had the handgun added to your permit. Only the person who has the handgun on their permit is allowed to shoot it.

Ummm, I don't think so.

You Broome County guys are getting bad advice...

http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/laws-politics/12042-can-someone-ny-pistol-permit-shoot-my-guns.html

Darthgamer138 · Oct 21, 2012

SRV1 said:
Technically the only time you can shoot another NY pistol permit holder's handgun is if you had the handgun added to your permit. Only the person who has the handgun on their permit is allowed to shoot it.

Where does it say this? I know you cannot CARRY pistols on not your permit, but where does it mention no shooting others? Or is it a combination of laws that make this illegal?

usmcveteran · Oct 21, 2012

If you are at a club I believe you can fire another person pistol as long as you have a permit yourself as well. But someone from PA with a permit there can not come into NYS to shoot another persons pistol.

PA Guns & Ammo · Oct 21, 2012

Gunner57 said:
Ummm, I don't think so.

You Broome County guys are getting bad advice...

http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/laws-politics/12042-can-someone-ny-pistol-permit-shoot-my-guns.html

Well that is what we were told and what I have read. I do not follow it anyways

RayKnobs · Oct 21, 2012

SRV1 said:
Technically the only time you can shoot another NY pistol permit holder's handgun is if you had the handgun added to your permit. Only the person who has the handgun on their permit is allowed to shoot it.

Actually you can shoot a pistol that isn't on your permit as long as you have a permit, are at a range, and the owner is present.

NY Penal Code § 265.20(7)(a). (2010)

7-a. Possession and use, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by the national rifle association for the purpose of loading and firing the same, by a person duly licensed to possess a pistol or revolver pursuant to section 400.00 or 400.01 of this chapter of a pistol or revolver duly so licensed to another person who is present at the time.
Just to be clear, PA permits mean nothing in NY

PA Guns & Ammo · Oct 21, 2012

Darthgamer138 said:
Where does it say this? I know you cannot CARRY pistols on not your permit, but where does it mention no shooting others? Or is it a combination of laws that make this illegal?

Read Terry's link. Our county gave us bogus info I guess. LOL!

James

Darthgamer138 · Oct 21, 2012

SRV1 said:
Read Terry's link. Our county gave us bogus info I guess. LOL!

James

Yeah we posted at the same time. I just saw that.

PA Guns & Ammo · Oct 21, 2012

Darthgamer138 said:
Where does it say this? I know you cannot CARRY pistols on not your permit, but where does it mention no shooting others? Or is it a combination of laws that make this illegal?

I believe the previous county judge and sheriff before Cawley and Curtis wrote this up and they never changed it. Maybe Dave will chime in.

James

Catfish787 · Oct 21, 2012

coolbreez67 said:
Did you mean could you go to PA and shoot someones pistol there? Or did you mean if someone else had a PA permit, could they shoot here?

I ask because I plan to move to PA in the near future and am wondering if I can legally shoot my father's pistols when I visit him since he will still be living in NY.

It looks like the answer is no unless you have a NYS pistol permit.

I hope this county will let me keep my NYS pistol permit when I leave, once I get it (been about 9-10 month wait so far).

Thanks for the comments everyone.

If anyone else has some useful information on this subject, post it up, please!

usmcveteran · Oct 21, 2012

Remember when you move out of state your NYS permit is not automatically revoked. You must inform them of the move within 10 days of moving but its not automatically revoked. You have to be a resident to obtain it but not to keep it, so remember that. If the clerk tells you to send it back in I would tell them to have the judge revoke it because moving out of state does not automatically revoke it.

Catfish787 · Oct 21, 2012

usmcveteran said:
Remember when you move out of state your NYS permit is not automatically revoked. You must inform them of the move within 10 days of moving but its not automatically revoked. You have to be a resident to obtain it but not to keep it, so remember that. If the clerk tells you to send it back in I would tell them to have the judge revoke it because moving out of state does not automatically revoke it.

Yup, I know.

Thanks for bringing this up though, its a good point.

coolbreez67 · Oct 21, 2012

Moving to PA. Good for you! I've thought about moving to Sayre just so I could avoid this stupid permit process. I work in Ithaca but it would only add about 10 minutes to my commute.

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