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Did Tom King really say this on YNN news last night?

"Anyone campaigning on a repeal of the SAFE act, is taking advantage of an uninformed public"

I don't have cable so I can't view it. It was on the show Capital Tonight with Liz Benjamin I believe.
 

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I didn't hear it. But it's a true statement. Anyone who goes any farther than saying, "I support the repeal of NYSAFE". Is full of ****. This law likely ain't getting repealed. It's up to the courts.
 

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Even Astorino has said that he doesn't have the power to repeal it. All he can do is defund it and order non-enforcement, and try to push legislation to amend/remove it.
 

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a politician telling us he will challenge the safe act is pandering to the public. he is going after what you want to hear.just like when obummer said he was going to have a transparent administration. this is no different.

if repealing the safe act is a politicians total platform, that person does not deserve to be elected.

the safe act will NOT be repealed! if the dems control the assembly, nothing will change. they will control the assembly.
as for safe act 2 do you really think skelos will be stupid enough to bring it out of committee for a vote? this assumes the dems don't take the majority in the senate.

steve mclughlin is running for re-election. he I a good talking head for our side but that is about all he talks about. he needs to be a little more diversified. the dem running against him is against the safe act also. he has presented a much more diverse agenda. will that confuse people?
 

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He's right.

Any politician that is screaming they will work to "repeal the safe act" is just trying to drum up votes...because everyone knows it will never be repealed.

Only the courts can toss it...and that is slim too. :(
 

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I believe Tom King was making the same point all along. Even if repeal will pass in the Senate and there is a governor in office willing to sign it, it will not pass the Assembly. It will never happen. He is being honest about the damage that was done by the NYGOP and their attempt to benefit from it. He made a few dumb statements in the past, but he is right about this.
 

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Tom King is a douche for sure but there's no doubt that anybody saying if elected they will repeal the SAFE Act is full of ****.
 

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He's right. The Assembly will NEVER repeal. Our only hope is the courts or move.
 

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It's not what he said.....it's why he said it. Does saying what he said in a public venue advance the cause of gun rights and the eventual riddance of the SAFE Act? While I also believe a full repeal is impropable, why the need to attack candidates who promote the idea of repeal? My personal thoughts are, with some arm-twisting and diplomacy, the legislature could very well repeal portions of the act. The more we aim to repeal, the more we will have to bargain with. Of course, NYSRPA's lobbying power would need to be assisted by others. More than half of the candidates their PAC gave to in 2012 ended up voting for the SAFE Act a couple months later - including Skelos and Valesky.
 

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What are pro-2A candidates supposed to say, that they're NOT for repeal of UnSafe, or NOT to call for its repeal? Frankly, no politician in this state can claim to be pro-2A if they are not consistently and loudly calling for the repeal of UnSafe. Any so-called 2A supporters who don't want pro-2A candidates to take that position are off their nut.

A political movement has to start somewhere, and it certainly isn't going to start with the likes of Tom "camo-wearers are scary" King.

Its one thing to say that the chances of repeal are small, at this time; its another thing for that numb nut to once again cede ground to the opposition by working against the few politicians we have left who support the 2A and take the correct position that UnSafe should be repealed.

Just another example of why I'm done playing politics in this crap state, and why I support the only political PAC that will ever make a difference vis-a-vis gun rights in this gulag: my arsenal.
 

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Why do I get the feeling this is aimed right at Rob Astorino.

I don't trust Tom King, he's the Chris Christie of gun rights. He knew damned well that bad legislation was coming out of that legislature and didn't say boo to a goose until it was too late. He knew, he's a lobbyist, that's what he does.
 
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