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Does NY have a duty to inform law? meaning if i am stopped walking or driving am i required to tell them i am carrying? I would think this would conflict with the 4th amendment
 

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There is no duty to inform in NYS. Some judges may impose this obligation upon holders of pistol permits they have issued, but that does not have the force of law.
 

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In the pistol safety course I took last Friday, they made it quite clear that it was better to inform an officer if you are pulled over and carrying. It does make sense in some forms as to show you are not trying to hide it. One of the instructors told a story about how he (or a friend of his... can't remember which) was pulled over while carrying, didn't inform the officer who happened to be a rookie. The officer asked him to step out of the car and when he did, his arm brushed his jacket, revealing the gun on his hip, and the rookie officer went nuts. Drew his gun, pointed it directly at his face and couldn't hold the damn gun steady b/c he was shaking so much. An accidental discharge could easily have occurred and it would have been a bad day for all.

Not really sure what I would do when that time comes...
 

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I say do NOT inform. Unless your county requires it (mine does not), I would NOT. You aren't hiding anything, and wasn't a topic just posted on here about a citizen informing an officer and bad things happening? I'd only inform if it had a great chance of being seen.
 

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i can't see it being county to county, that seems like a state wide law...I am against informing just because it isn't anyones business if I'm carrying or not..
 

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Lots of permit stuff is county to county...
 

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i can't see it being county to county, that seems like a state wide law...I am against informing just because it isn't anyones business if I'm carrying or not..
As it was already stated, there is no law that says you have a duty to inform. Depending on what county you are in, some judges make it an administrative restriction. You wouldn't be breaking any law if you didn't inform however if there is an incident and the judge finds out, he can revoke your license. It's the same way with "restricted" carry licenses.
 

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Just to get the words out there for reference:

400.00
8. License: exhibition and display. Every licensee while carrying a
pistol or revolver shall have on his or her person a license to carry
the same. Every person licensed to possess a pistol or revolver on
particular premises shall have the license for the same on such
premises. Upon demand, the license shall be exhibited for inspection to
any peace officer, who is acting pursuant to his or her special duties,


Issuing officers and individual LEOs or departments are going to have thier own little policy thing regardless, so don't take the actual law as the actual law.
 

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lets be clear, the police are not the bad guys, the politicians and the bad guys are bad guys, there should be no fear of informing LEO of a weapon, there should be fear in not letting LEO know and new LEO getting too excited!
 

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I only inform if ever asked to "please step out of the vehicle" It has only happened once and before I got out I informed the officer I was carrying a legal firearm and i had a permit followed by the location of the gun on my body, He asked me step out arms to my side removed the firearm checked the numbers and my permit and sent me on my way smooth as could be. The only reason I was pulled over was I was the D.D. who decided to argue with my drunk friend forgot to turn my headlights on lol. Never even got to the sobriety test after the firearm check I was free to go!
 

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lets be clear, the police are not the bad guys, the politicians and the bad guys are bad guys, there should be no fear of informing LEO of a weapon, there should be fear in not letting LEO know and new LEO getting too excited!
Sometimes the police are in fact the bad guys. Plus, it really any of their business. I don't tell them what color underwear I am wearing...
 

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"most" police aren't the bad guys, but some are very power hungry and you should exercise all of your rights no matter how small or you will lose them.. Just like video taping police, it isn't always necessary but its a right they will take if you don't fight for it.
 

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I would only tell them if they asked or if they asked me to step out of the vehicle. This hasn't happened but those are the only two circumstances that feel it would be necessary to inform them about it.
 

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In the pistol safety course I took last Friday, they made it quite clear that it was better to inform an officer if you are pulled over and carrying. It does make sense in some forms as to show you are not trying to hide it. One of the instructors told a story about how he (or a friend of his... can't remember which) was pulled over while carrying, didn't inform the officer who happened to be a rookie. The officer asked him to step out of the car and when he did, his arm brushed his jacket, revealing the gun on his hip, and the rookie officer went nuts. Drew his gun, pointed it directly at his face and couldn't hold the damn gun steady b/c he was shaking so much. An accidental discharge could easily have occurred and it would have been a bad day for all.

Not really sure what I would do when that time comes...
if asked to get out of the car/vehicle you put your hands on the steering wheel, in plane view and say "Officer, I am a licensed concealed carry holder and I do have a legal firearm on my person, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED."

Then simply follow the officers instructions. It's good bet he will just ask you to keep your hands in view and not make any sudden moves. at this point it is quit possible he will hand cuff you when you get out of the vehicle ( he will explain that it is temporary and only for his safety, you will not be under arrest at that point) he will disarm you, make the weapon safe, and continue with his investigation

But to be honest, I have been pulled over for a traffic violations and I never informed the officer (except see below). once my car was full of rifle cases and hunting gear, the only thing the trooper said was, where you headed to hunt, I said near watertown, he said, nice country, there are some big deer up there........we had a nice conversation about hunting and camping, I thought I talked my way out of a ticket, I was wrong, LOL. got an 1180-D <crap>

Once I low sided my scooter (GL1800) when the cops showed up I handed him my DL and my CCW permit. he looked at my permit and said I have the Ruger LCP on me, he said ( Im not kidding, this is exactly what he said) "you sure, or do I have to go look through that nice ladies front yard for a gun" I smiled and said," nope I have it, it's the second thing I checked on, right after my wife" He said "Glad you said the second thing, Im pretty sure she is PO'd you dumped her" we both were laughing at that point. (except my ribs hurt like hell, LOL)
 
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