[UVAC]

Interesting read...

The NYPD has instructed cops to stop carrying an off-duty gun that has a trigger so light it's been blamed for a series of accidental discharges, the Daily News has learned.

Read more: NYPD brass to cops: Stop using Kahr K-9 semi-automatic pistol as an off-duty gun* - NY Daily News

NYPD Brass Attempts To Blame Pistols For "Accidental" Shootings

NYPD Brass Attempts To Blame Pistols For "Accidental" Shootings - Bearing Arms

 

[catskillkid]

Maybe instead of banning an entire line of firearms, they should do some proper training. Last I checked, guns don't shoot themselves.

 

[thecelt]

comical....

 

[Airborneguy]

The first link is sort of true. The Kahr was removed from the approved list because of the inability of the manufacturer to modify the design to meet the NYPD's mandatory trigger pull, not because of accidental discharges. There was no animosity in the decision; it just couldn't be safely modified to conform to the requirements.

The second link is sensationalist nonsense looking to stir up crap by re-hashing 3-4 year old information as if it was new. Just another "let's get in on this wave of anti-law enforcement sentiment" piece. I'd hope most people see through this type of game, but I'd probably be disappointed.

 

[depick]

Figures that kind of logic comes out of NYC

 

[truebeliever2013]

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Kahr. And I know many an NYPD officer who did the trade in a Kahr for a discounted Glock 26. And many of my friends regretted the move and wish the retained their Kahr even if it was no longer authorized to carry. It was not discounted to due accidental discharges but to department BS.

And this issue was done years ago. No reason for it to be brought back up.

 

[Glockguy19]

did I see that correctly ..13 Lbs??!!

 

[byf42]

did I see that correctly ..13 Lbs??!!

Yep, similiar to the G19 with NY2 trigger.

 

[Airborneguy]

did I see that correctly ..13 Lbs??!!

It makes for horrendous range days.

 

[Darthgamer138]

"The new threshold is a pound more than the pressure needed to fire a Glock, the gun of choice for most NYPD officers."

Incorrect. That's a pound more than the already dangerous pull of the bastardized Glocks. Regular Glocks have a 5.5# pull.

"Police departments generally require a heavier pull because they want officers to realize the serious nature of opening fire."

Ah, the fact you are about to end someone's life? Who cares right? Easy come, easy go. But having to exert slightly more pressure on your trigger finger to do it!? THEN you realize what you are doing.

As for the issue, given that the NYPD is just about the opposite of gun safety, the Kars may actually be on of the safest guns one the market it seems.

 

[epthorn]

The only thing the "NY Trigger" has managed to do is make sure police don't hit what they're aiming for when they do pull the trigger. Oh, and make some paper-pusher feel better about liability.

 

[truebeliever2013]

The Nypd current trigger pull is the second time they raised the trigger pull. The NY1 pull was fine and accomished both goals. The second rise in trigger pull was a quick way to say they took care of them of accident discharges when officers clean the gun. I know it doesn't make sense but the gun stupid media bought it and the Nypd cops are stuck with it.

 

[Airborneguy]

It took years to no longer have accuracy issues using either of my pistols that have the NY2 trigger. It definitely takes much more shooting than the department provides to become comfortable with them. Back when ammo was cheap and I owned my own land in Sullivan County, I was putting 1000 rounds per month through them. Easily, far, far more than 99% of cops anywhere I'm sure. After a few years of not much practice, I'm back up to a few hundred rounds per month (I shot 200 this morning).

Whenever we have the "if you were PC" conversation, getting rid of the NY2 trigger is always my top priority. It was one of my suggestions to Bratton's supposedly serious "Re-engineering Survey".

 

[Dr. Evil]

Can we please stop calling them "accidents" and call them what they are... NEGLIGENT.

 

[epthorn]

I like to call them whoopsiedaisies but for some reason everyone around me calls it "pulling an epthorn"... wonder why...

 

[Cuomostein]

I actually liked NY1 trigger on my Glocks, way better than stock. NY2 is ~11lbs, must be horrendous.

 

[mrod]

Finger off the trigger !!! while you pull it out the holster breath aim squezzzzzzzzzz BANG !!!!

 

[Airborneguy]

Can we please stop calling them "accidents" and call them what they are... NEGLIGENT.

Officially, the department calls them exactly what they are: Negligent Discharges. I'll take a picture of the posted signs when I go back to work if you like. Whatever the media prints is on them.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Officially, the department calls them exactly what they are: Negligent Discharges. I'll take a picture of the posted signs when I go back to work if you like. Whatever the media prints is on them.

No need to.

 

[Riverrat]

I loved the kahr. My brother had to trade his in and he was upset as well. When I was a kid I said to myself I'm never leaving ny. The older I get the more I want to. Sad