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all of you nice folks who believe that if courts would only allow the open discussion of jury nullification, the system would right a great many of its injustices.
After all, the platitudes favor the constitutional right to a jury of one's peers, and your fellow citizens would certainly see things your way, right?
All justice-minded folks see things your way, right?
Because you are rational, thoughtful, normal, and what could go wrong?

In Newsday,

Nassau County seizing vehicles after DWI arrests - Newsday

it appears that Nassau County has decided to reinstitute the boondoggle of seizing the cars of people arrested for drunk driving.
Not convicted, mind you, but arrested.
Because they wouldn't be arrested if they weren't guilty.

Nassau County police have begun seizing the vehicles of motorists arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs and holding the cars as cases proceed through the courts, county officials said.
County Attorney Carnell Foskey said the new system "gets the car off the road after the arrest and hearing and keeps the car available for forfeiture."
Nassau previously returned vehicles to motorists after arrests. But by the time of convictions, the driver's lease or financing agreement on the vehicle had expired, preventing the county from reaching a monetary settlement, Foskey said. Under the new system, Nassau could have a better chance to collect because it will already be in possession of the vehicle.
But even when they waited until after conviction, it was a disaster.
But delays occurred because the county's attorneys failed to promptly file the extensive paperwork needed to obtain the cars, leading to a backlog of vehicles rusting in county impound lots.
Cars sat neglected in pounds.
People were denied their cars, which meant they couldn't drive to work, keep their jobs, earn an income to feed their children.
If they prevailed later, they got two tons of neglected junk in return
Cars aren't meant to sit for a couple of years with feral animals sleeping on the rich, Corinthian leather.

But they're drunk drivers, so screw 'em, right?
Except the cars didn't have to be owned by the arrestees.
They might be their spouses car, their neighbor's car, anyone's car, but driven that moment by the accused. The exceptions for lease companies and banks saved big business, who deserved to be saved mind you, but did nothing for small children who depended on the accused for their existence.

But they're drunk drivers, so screw 'em, right?
Except some cars were worth $100, and others were worth $100,000, but they were all treated the same as an additional penalty, a fine, to be piled on top of whatever punishment a judge meted out.
Because the law imposes a sentence, separate and apart from secondary forfeitures laws exact whatever retribution under the guise of "instrumentality of the crime" it seeks.

But they're drunk drivers, so screw 'em, right?
But at least the money goes to a good cause, a worthy cause, like whatever the car is worth after having sat abandoned for a couple years, and then a third of the auction value goes to the outside law firm hired to handle the forfeitures.

Settlement proceeds go the county's general fund, while forfeiture money from auctions goes to the police department.
In May, Nassau hired the Merrick law firm of Campanelli & Associates to represent the county in the hearings, which are held before State Supreme Court Justice Norman Janowitz. The firm, which is paid a third of the proceeds from the sale of the vehicle or the financial settlement, did similar work for Nassau from 2001 to 2003 under then-County Executive Thomas Suozzi.

So there can be no doubt that the locals have brushed the cobwebs off their pitchforks and lit their torches to march on the county for this outrageous decision, right?

comments from locals:

Gina: Nobody should be driving while high or intoxicated.
They are dangerous on the road. More dangerous than someone going 26 mph in a school zone for pete's sake.
I am all for this. Just don't drive high or drunk & you will have nothing to worry about. Simple.

W.J.: Easiest way to avoid seizure of the vehicle is don't drive if you've been drinking!!!
No sympathy here, whether it is a $1000 or $50,000 car.
They are selfish people and a menace to the rest of us and deserve the loss.

CLWalsh: If you don't drink and drive you have nothing to worry about. My feeling, you drink and drive, you should never be aloud to drive again. Throw away the key.

LPerry2: If you are drunk and fail a breath test, you are guilty. If you are caught with illegal drugs in you car, you are guilty. However, caution needs to be made that a driver is not medically impaired ( seizure/ diabetic reaction, etc) before the car is impounded and sold. However, there are so many repeat offenders and these people could start carjacking or breaking into cars more often. Criminals think they are above the law.

What few see, and fewer still care about, is that anyone convicted of drunk driving will be sentenced by a judge in accordance with the law. That's not enough to soothe the angry townspeople.
If it was up for popular vote, there would not only be a death penalty, but one that applied to any crime more serious than jaywalking.
Until it's them or their loved ones, they are more than happy to flip the switch.
If you think otherwise, you don't get out enough.
 

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LPerry2: If you are drunk and fail a breath test, you are guilty. If you are caught with illegal drugs in you car, you are guilty. However, caution needs to be made that a driver is not medically impaired ( seizure/ diabetic reaction, etc) before the car is impounded and sold. However, there are so many repeat offenders and these people could start carjacking or breaking into cars more often. Criminals think they are above the law.
So, when she gets carjacked by a drunk she thinks it's a good idea for the cops to take her car when they catch the drunk ?
 

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Ridiculous.
 

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I'm thinking it'd be a good time for a class action suit in federal court for unreasonable seizure. After Rice got lost the county a few million dollars for the AW fiasco by T&T you'd think they'd try to limit their liability to such things....
 
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