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Damn you! Just bought one on Gunborker...could have saved $50 buying from these guys.
Can you tell us how strong the recoil spring is? How much effort to pull it back. The reason I ask is because my wife has poor wrist strength due to reconstruction wrist surgery. She handled a Sig Mosquito 22 rimfire in a gun shop and was able to pull it back ok. Did not buy the mosquito due to some poor reviews I have read. I'll be interested to hear what brand of ammo this gun likes as far as function (jams, failure to feed etc.) as well as which brand results in the best groups.
 

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The PR piece says it has a threaded barrel. Is that an option? Isn't the threaded barrel outlawed in the commie state of NY?
 

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Did a little research today for you guys - here it is from the bottom of the S&W website page -

This pistol has not yet been added to the handgun rosters in Maryland and Massachusetts. Not compliant for sale in California, Connecticut, New York, and Washington, D.C.

 

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Did a little research today for you guys - here it is from the bottom of the S&W website page -

This pistol has not yet been added to the handgun rosters in Maryland and Massachusetts. Not compliant for sale in California, Connecticut, New York, and Washington, D.C.
Huh? Available at several local shops, including Gander Mt. So far, I'm very pleased with mine. If you decide to cross the river, let me know & I'll let you try one out!
 

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The PR piece says it has a threaded barrel. Is that an option? Isn't the threaded barrel outlawed in the commie state of NY?
Hmmmm ..... this could be interesting as you are correct that the threaded barrel makes this a weapon of mass destruction in anti-American NYS! I do wonder though if maybe S&W has the same model now available without the threaded barrel. I wanna see if someone whom buys one can verify this. If it has a threaded barrel .... it's only proof that businesses are now joining in on the "civil disobedience" that the law abiding citizens have been said to be engaging in since the UNSAFE Act deadlines keep passing and ... .nothing is getting done. LOL
 

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Does anyone know if this is legal in NY state? Palmetto state armory has it for $259.99 that's a steal! If they were to ship it could my local FFL still deny me?
 

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Does anyone know if this is legal in NY state? Palmetto state armory has it for $259.99 that's a steal! If they were to ship it could my local FFL still deny me?
Well, it is NYS legal. An FFL can deny anything he/she wants but I don't see why they would and it would certainly make sense to contact your FFL: first before ordering. I don't know if Palmetto is shipping any handguns to NY or not, but in a brief glance at their policies I didn't see where it said they weren't. Just for the heck of it I added it to cart to see the shipping price, and it says $17 without anything coming up that says no NY sales.

259 + 17 + 25 (transfer from my guy) + 5 (permit amendment in Ulster) - $306 total .. I gotta admit, it's tempting
 

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Well, it is NYS legal. An FFL can deny anything he/she wants but I don't see why they would and it would certainly make sense to contact your FFL: first before ordering. I don't know if Palmetto is shipping any handguns to NY or not, but in a brief glance at their policies I didn't see where it said they weren't. Just for the heck of it I added it to cart to see the shipping price, and it says $17 without anything coming up that says no NY sales.

259 + 17 + 25 (transfer from my guy) + 5 (permit amendment in Ulster) - $306 total .. I gotta admit, it's tempting
Yes it's a great price. I emailed them and they stated that it is NYS compliant and will ship to my FFL in Westchester. I'm just confused on the law with threaded barrels. I thought they were illegal now in NYS and this pistol has one. I just dont want to buy one to later find out it's banned as they have a no return policy.
 

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Yes it's a great price. I emailed them and they stated that it is NYS compliant and will ship to my FFL in Westchester. I'm just confused on the law with threaded barrels. I thought they were illegal now in NYS and this pistol has one. I just dont want to buy one to later find out it's banned as they have a no return policy.
OH, gotcha. We've had some threads on this that I'll try to find and point you to. Bascially though this gun is legal because it's not exactly a threaded barrel in the sense that the law is written. Much like the Sig 1911-22 and a number of other guns. Let me see if I can find those threads rather than write it all out again.
 

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Well, I'm not having much luck easily finding the forum threads that I was referring to, but I can explain it simple enough. What the law actually says is,
A THREADED BARREL CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING A BARREL EXTENDER, FLASH SUPPRESSOR, FORWARD HANDGRIP, OR SILENCER
The type of threads on guns like this M&P-22 , The Walther P22, The Sig or GSG 1911-22 , and so on , they are not threads as defined in the law as being capable of attaching any of those things, and that's why they are able to be sold in NY. Instead what you have on these guns are internal threads which hold on the barrel bushing. When the pistol is in battery, the barrel bushing (which is on the threads) is completely inside the slide. The gun wouldn't actually function properly without the barrel bushing attached to those internal threads. The threads also have a very fine thread pitch which is proprietary to only the the barrel bushing and would not support any kind of attachment.

However, all of those guns do have aftermarket barrel bushings available which can convert them to have external threads which would support an attachment. So, if you were to buy and install one of those aftermarket adapters, then you would have an 'assualt weapon'.
 

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Well, I'm not having much luck easily finding the forum threads that I was referring to, but I can explain it simple enough. What the law actually says is,

The type of threads on guns like this M&P-22 , The Walther P22, The Sig or GSG 1911-22 , and so on , they are not threads as defined in the law as being capable of attaching any of those things, and that's why they are able to be sold in NY. Instead what you have on these guns are internal threads which hold on the barrel bushing. When the pistol is in battery, the barrel bushing (which is on the threads) is completely inside the slide. The gun wouldn't actually function properly without the barrel bushing attached to those internal threads. The threads also have a very fine thread pitch which is proprietary to only the the barrel bushing and would not support any kind of attachment.

However, all of those guns do have aftermarket barrel bushings available which can convert them to have external threads which would support an attachment. So, if you were to buy and install one of those aftermarket adapters, then you would have an 'assualt weapon'.
Great thanks for clearing that up! It's a shame we are subjected to so many restrictions and regulations, I can't keep up.
 
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