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Well don't believe what the review's say, There sight's are for toy guns. I am on the 3rd replacement in the past year, it is lifetime but 3 times it failed. I bought as a tempory sight till I could save the 600.00 for a eotech. wasted a 100.00 $ of my money. Oh well live and learn , just wanted to let everyone know, who don't know. Don't be cheap like I was. Any way I feel better to vent. :hissyfit: Ordered eotech from brownells today. can't wait to get it.
 

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NCStar, Barsca, Centerpoint, CounterSniper, BSA, Leapers are all crap.
 

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+2... All chicom knock offs..... The markup on these is crazy. They have a lifetime warranty because they expect to be in bussiness for a few years!
 

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Most of the time you get what you pay for .. For red dots I would stay with eotech , Trijicon , or aimpoint .. You can get a 512 eotech or a aimpoint pro for under 400
It's a little ridiculous to suggest that people should only get those high end dots for their firearms. Are you saying I should out a $500 red dot on my $400 .22lr? Not bloody likely.

Of course, if you can afford it, go with the best, but if your not laughing all the way to the bank, there are many knockoffs that are quality. Primary Arms, Vortex SPARC, Bushnell TRS25 and others come to mind.

With that said, +1 on the crappiness of NCstar. Total junk.
 

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For a 22 I'd buy a $30 BSA red dot. For a Centerfire I refuse to buy junk optics. I'd rather save. I've learned.
 

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That's right those are ok for airsoft kids but not for real firearms.
You need to start looking into $200 to $300 minimun to start finding something actually worth looking at.
 

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From what ive found, iTac makes an ok red dot, sightmark makes a decent holo sight and....vortex has an ok few, other than that most are junkers
 

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It's a little ridiculous to suggest that people should only get those high end dots for their firearms. Are you saying I should out a $500 red dot on my $400 .22lr? Not bloody likely.

Of course, if you can afford it, go with the best, but if your not laughing all the way to the bank, there are many knockoffs that are quality. Primary Arms, Vortex SPARC, Bushnell TRS25 and others come to mind.

With that said, +1 on the crappiness of NCstar. Total junk.
+1 on bushnell they make good quality product for the price.. the way i look at it some ncstar dots are like 40 bucks.. that the price of my front iron sight .. there is a reason why its so cheap.. quality was poorly made.
 

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I ordered a 20 dollar red dot sight from NCStar as a temp sight for a 12 gauge that was cut down (not by me) to the legal limit and had no proper bead sight on it, needless to say it was about the worst thing in the world.

Number 1, no clicks for windage or elevation adjustment, just twist that set screw and hope.

Number 2 if you turned it towards the left it went left, to the right, it went left, up it went left, and down....it went slightly up and to the left. By the time I adjusted it for a good 15 minutes I had to look at the sight at a 45 degree angle to see the dot and couldn't get it moved back over (slight exaggeration but it was pretty bad) so needless to say I just threw it out and was a much better shot using just the notch down the center of the UTG picatinny then using that NCStar thing.

I have 2 center points on my .22LRs, one is 2-7x zoom and another is 3-9x zoom, no complaints, been dropped, banged, scraped and stored for awhile and are sill zeroed in so as far as that goes they are ok so far. Never used them on higher calibers. I like Tasco red dots, they work pretty nice for me so far, I have one on my AK.
 

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The only way I'd spend less than $3-400 on an optic is if it's for a rimfire gun. Otherwise, I get the absolute highest quality I can afford, and all of those choices have never let me down.
 

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I ordered a 20 dollar red dot sight from NCStar as a temp sight for a 12 gauge that was cut down (not by me) to the legal limit and had no proper bead sight on it, needless to say it was about the worst thing in the world.

Number 1, no clicks for windage or elevation adjustment, just twist that set screw and hope.

Number 2 if you turned it towards the left it went left, to the right, it went left, up it went left, and down....it went slightly up and to the left. By the time I adjusted it for a good 15 minutes I had to look at the sight at a 45 degree angle to see the dot and couldn't get it moved back over (slight exaggeration but it was pretty bad) so needless to say I just threw it out and was a much better shot using just the notch down the center of the UTG picatinny then using that NCStar thing.

I have 2 center points on my .22LRs, one is 2-7x zoom and another is 3-9x zoom, no complaints, been dropped, banged, scraped and stored for awhile and are sill zeroed in so as far as that goes they are ok so far. Never used them on higher calibers. I like Tasco red dots, they work pretty nice for me so far, I have one on my AK.
+ 1 For centerpoint on my 22 mag. nice scope for less than a $90.00. I have had a 3 x 9 on my 22 for two years no problem's. Glass is not The clearest but no loss of zero after shooting over a 1,000 rounds. As far as the Ncstar goes I spent $ 110.00 on the best one they make and the recoil kills the windage and unable to re zero. The small set screws are suppose to keep that from happing. Any way I mounted and shot my new Eotech esp2-2 and I love it. head shots at 100 yards no problem. I waited a while but so worth it.
 

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I don't think you need to spend 2-300 for a decent red-dot. I have a $100.00 Primary Arms red dot on one of my M4's right now which has been very good to me over countless rounds. I've also owned a Bushnell illuminated T-dot which was also a VERY nice optic for the $170 price point. I love my Eotech to death, but there are definitely options (good ones) out there at half the price, if money is tight.
 
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