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The Customers We Wish We Never Had | The Truth About Guns

"When people clamor for universal background checks, they fail to realize one thing - mental illness is not on the table. There is no legal linkage between the mental health industry and the gun industry. If we want to get real about preventing guns from getting into the hands of people with mental illness, we have to get serious about HIPAA and getting a repeal or a reform and a bridge built betwen mental health and law enforcement."
 

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I don't necessarily agree or disagree with this article. This individual was a smart guy and would have found another way to end his life whether that be with a gun or another option. I do agree our mental health system is broken, but don't like making hippa public per say. I know it isn't really confidential in ny anyways.
 

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All it took was a belt for Robin Williams. Maybe they will only allow 7 notches in belts from now on.
 

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Good point. In the end I think someone intent on ending their life will prevail. Can't lock them in a padded room forever.
Exactly. When someone commits suicide by means other than a gun, then it's a mental health issue. Someone commits suicide with a gun, then it's a gun issue. Complete and total crap.
 

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My friend Ron is dead because of a series of systemic failures. The industry I have chosen failed him. My industry failed his family. My industry failed his friends. The cop taking the report about his threatened suicide, the one who took his gun away, failed all of us by not making that call. We had the textbook failure cascade. Our national background check system did nothing because no one told it anything.
No. He is dead because he chose to end his life, for whatever the reason that only he will ever know.
 

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No. He is dead because he chose to end his life, for whatever the reason that only he will ever know.
the text you quoted is classic socialistic thinking... blame everyone else for the actions of someone... blame the school, blame his parents, blame his school nurse for not noticing he may have been depressed..... you cant blame other systems or people for the actions of someone. of course they could have helped prevent it if they noticed things or took different actions, but its not their fault, they are not to blame.

personal responsibility is what this country has been lacking, and its largely why its been going downhill. it is a main principle of communism/socialism to blame the system not the person.
 

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the text you quoted is classic socialistic thinking... blame everyone else for the actions of someone... blame the school, blame his parents, blame his school nurse for not noticing he may have been depressed..... you cant blame other systems or people for the actions of someone. of course they could have helped prevent it if they noticed things or took different actions, but its not their fault, they are not to blame.

personal responsibility is what this country has been lacking, and its largely why its been going downhill. it is a main principle of communism/socialism to blame the system not the person.
I agree, in this case i think emotions are triggering his response. As a dealer he should know background checks do not stop people from obtaining guns. It would be hard for any us to know we provided someone with a tool to take their own life, whether that be a car, gun, knife etc.
 

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What gets me is they add all gun deaths in to the "Gun Violence" category. 30'000 gun deaths a year average in the US, but 2/3s of all gun deaths is from suiside, then figure in all of the people law enforcement shoot and then the gang banger & druggies shooting each other up that drops the numbers significantly for the actual gun violence where Joe Blow shoot a neighbor for being an a$$hole. Or John the Baptist walks in and finds his wife with another man and dust both of the pieces of **** with his twelve gauge.
Right off the top they should subtract the suiside shootings, subtract the law enforcement shootings and gang banger shooting gang banger and druggie shooting druggie shootings from the list of actual gun violence.

But that would make sence which Democraps have none of. They have their agenda to dis-arm the American People no matter the cost, and lies they tell everyday of their life to achieve this goal.
 

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"We are in the killing business, and business is good."

Sounds like somebody hacked this guy's account and posted a sad but true story with some grabber speak tossed in.
 

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I loved Ron like a brother and if he truly knew how much the people he left behind cared about him, he would still be around.

He loved his friend so much that we would prefer that his friend continue his intense personal suffering rather than put the author through some discomfort in mourning the death of his friend. If he really loved his friend, would he not be glad that the intense suffering was finally at an end? Or does the author feel that since *he* could not see the pain his friend was in, that it could not have been so bad?

Can you say that you love somebody when you insist that they live their life in a way that deliberately causes them suffering so that you can avoid some discomfort?
 
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