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Sorry for the long read but this was to good to be true so here is what happened today for me..

I got a hell of a deal today.I had a Dr. appointment today so after I went to the Dr. I figure I stop by Gander Mountain to see what they had in ammo for my 357 Magnum. While I was there a guy come in looking forward to getting rid of a Brand-New pistol, at this point I was not really interested in buying another pistol, but I was not sure what he had, so I kind of just hung out to see what kind of pistol he had, the reason behind me doing this. I know Gander Mountain will not pay crap for any type of firearm being it is brand new or not even if just walk out of the store with a new one and decided you did not want it even if it is 1 minute after you purchase the gun...

Cause once you purchase the gun it is what they called used, I know it is a stupid policy they have, so any ways while I was hanging out to see what this guy had, I was surprised it is a Brand New unfired Taurus Raging Bull 44 Magnums, well a Gander Mountain associate check the gun over and told the guy he would only give him $350.00 for it and the guy just about flipped out he said this gun goes for Brand New $799.99, and the guy pointed it out you have one sitting in the display case showing the price of $799.00,so the associate said it is completely new and of course, the guy said yes so is mine, well the associate asked the guy what was he looking forward to getting for it, so he said I at least like to get at least $450.00 even though I know it is Brand New you should at least give me that price I am asking for it as that is nearly with tax a saving of $400.00.

So this is where it gets interesting the associate had to take a phone and while he did I made my move, I said to guy. I can help you out if you like if you let me see the pistol, and he says to me do you have a pistol permit, I said yes and so I showed him my permit, and he said to me you have had your permit for quite awhile I said yes I have. So after I had seen the pistol. I said to him if you like I will give you $450.00 for it, and he was like totally shock he says to me are you sure, well I said Gander Mountain only wants to give $350.00 correct he says yes there out of there dam mine if they cannot at least give me $450.00 I am out of here.

After I check the pistol out really well, I said I buy it from you, then he says to me do we not have to do a transfer and background check. I said no, well he says to me how do you go about doing this, and I told him you have Clinton County permit correct, and it is all up to date with the most recently NICS check correct he says yes he just renewed his permit.

Well, I said to him. I also have a Clinton County permit... He then says I still do not know how you can do this with having it go through an FFL I said I tell you what are you willing to trust me and come with me to the Clinton County Clerk, he said sure, so we took the short trip maybe 2 miles from Gander Mountain and preceded to go inside the Clinton County Clerk Office, and I said to him let me do all the talking as I have done this a couple of times before he said ok.

So I preceded to tell the lady at the Clinton County Clerks. I said this guy wants to sell me his pistol, and he has a up-to-date permit, and she says ok, so she says to him may I see your permit and of course, he gives it to her then she asked me for mine after she says to both of us your permits are all recent with up-to-date NICS checks.

So she goes to guy. I need you to fill out this paper work saying that you want to sell your pistol to this guy(that being me) he says yes, she then says to him. there will also be a $5.00 fee to take the pistol off your permit(that would be him the seller) and a $5.00 fee from the buyer to add the pistol to their permit(that would be me.)

After everything was done and we headed over to the bank, so I could pay him for the pistol he was so surprised how that worked and I said yes, I told him I had found out about this not too long ago from my landlord who has done this before...the guy was so surprised that he could do this. he says to me. I tell you what since you showed me how to do this. I let you have the pistol for $425.00 instead of $450.00.

So I said you sure I am willing to pay the $450.00 for the pistol. he said no I am ok with the price plus you help me out where Gander Mountain would not plus you showed me something I never knew was possible...I said your Welcome and said I was not sure if this work the same in all other Counties, but I do know it does work here in Clinton County.

Well, all in all, we were both happy on how things seem to work out in the end, and now I have another new pistol, and the guy got what he really wanted for his pistol even though I know he should have gotten more for it, but he was just willing to take a loss on money wise towards the pistol but not for a company that basically would buy his pistol for practically nothing and then resell it for twice as much as what they would have paid him for it...

Here is a couple pictures of my newly acquired Taurus Raging Bull 44 Magnum..



 

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Not bad. These sell new on Gunbroker for a little over $500 fairly regularly so you got a decent deal.

Question is...what the heck are you going to do with it? LOL
Going to print me out some full size FUAC targets and shoot the hell out of them..

This has the 8 3/8th ported barrel it is one hell of a beast..It is the 444 model..
 

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Nice!
now buy a nice wrist band. ...it hurts after a while.
Not sure I use to have a Smith & Wesson Model 29 in a 44 magnum did not find it to bad and the Ranging Bull I know has a lot more weight to it so will just have to wait and see how the wrist will handle this beast,lol

Now I need to get some ammo for it,lol there is no one close to me that has any 44 magnum ammo might have to make a road trip to Williston,VT to the Powder Horn this week to gets some I know they have it..
 

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Nice deal. I'll have to check it out sometime up to the range after this white stuff goes away. I've got some new guns too. We will have to have a range day, I know one of my friends wants to do that later too.
Yes the landlord and I can not wait till it starts warming up to go to the range to get some trigger time in,by the way did you renew your membership yet?

My landlord and I both know Larry so we got the forums yesterday from him and paid the renewal directly to him so he can take care of it and we should get are new cards in the next few days..by the way there is a new cobination lock so the old number will not work anymore I do not have the new number yet it come with the new card..
 

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After you shoot some buffalo bore come back and give me an update on the recoil. LOL
Ammo is out there but prices are getting brutal. I reload.
Yeah figured they be on the pricey side figured for CCI Blazer is around $45 for a box of 50 rounds,reloading is not really a option for me just don't have the place to reload,we do have a garage but it is not heated at all so I kind of have to buy factory loads for it,it is not like I be shooting it a lot so I try and buy a couple hundred rounds to have on hand for now,I going to see what they have in Williston,VT as they always do me good for ammo prices..

@cgrutt come join the crowd I know you want one,lol
 

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Pretty sure you just broke the law with the consent of your clerks office... the clerk can't exempt you from a NICS check. I would suggest you delete the thread.
What do you mean I broke the law they do the NICS check rite there at my County Clerks Office so there is no law being broken,You do not have to get a NICS check from a FFL, there not the ones who issue you the permit even though yes you can get your NICS check from a FFL but they are not the one who can update your permit if it needs to be updated it has to be done through your County Clerks Office..

So when I purchase this pistol from this guy both of us automatically get this NICS check rite there at the County Clerks Office,it maybe different at your County Clerks Office but here it is just like going through a FFL dealer just don't have to pay the transfer fee only fee that need be paid is the taking off or putting on a new pistol to your permit..
 

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Ranger, sweet job swooping in for the kill. Def Ranger style.

I am sad to say, I doubt you'll find a crossbreed holster for that thing!!! :)
Nope that will be going in a carry case that holds 2 pistols,don't be surprise if you see me post another pistol tomorrow sometime,I was just talking to Chicken Shoot on something I seen today I just can not resist to not get it,all I can say is it will be another 45 ACP..

Ah hell with I tell you now..

TAURUS 1911 .45 ACP PISTOL WITH PICATINNY RAILS
 

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So you are saying the County Clerk has a FFL? They are the only ones that can do a NICS check.....
Tell me something where do you get your permit from it comes from the Judge at the County Clerks Office so in short they have to have a FFL to even give you a permit how else do you think they issue or even do back ground check on you,if they could not do this then where would get your permit to even own a pistol..

And no there not the only ones that have FFL all your local gun store have them..

I'm not always on top of things here but if the clerk put it on his permit what's the problem?
I agree how hard is it to understand .....man I feel like I have to keep repeating my self all the time..
 

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I have had a ruger super red hawk 44 mag for awhile and I have shot a lot of reloads out of it, mostly 44 specials but a bunch of full power loads as well. In some ways I like the 44 better than my 357 because the gun is so heavy it takes a lot of the kick out of the full power loads and the special loads are like shooting a 22.
Jim
Yeah that is what is nice about it being so big less recoil granted it still have some punch to it,I use to a long time ago have a Smith & Wesson Model 29 and that had some real punch to it but that probably had half of weight this Taurus Raging Bull does.
 

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For goodness sakes to all you guys who have not read I was already asked this by one member here and I stated yes I filled out all the necessary forms that needed to be done when I was at the County Clerks Office and just to make you all happy it was the form that is used to do the NICS check and for your info it was yes the it was the 4473 form,I really did not no the number on the form I just knew there is yes and no question along with all the basic info like where you live,born,height,weight,nationality etc....

I have had my permit for over 22 years and have had numerous pistols on my permit do you think for once I do not know that these forms have to be filled out..
 

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So your saying there's a chance?....
Absolutely not I do everything by the books especially pistols,the only thing I have ever sold with out a NICS check and that would be a rifle and that was way before the unSafeact even took place..as you could do private transfer for rifles back then with out having to have a NICS check..
 

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OK, that's good, Glad to hear it was all okee dokee. I did not know that County Clerks could also double as FFL dealers, and fill out the required NYSP paperwork also. I learn something new everyday. God bless......enjoy your hand cannon
That is ok not every county is the same or does this as far as I know,I just happened to find out this my self in my county not to long ago and it works out kind of nice if your buying a pistol from another person who has a permit in the same county as you live in..it saves you some money on transfer fee as some places can charge you anywhere between $25 all the way to $75 for a transfer fee..
 

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Geez, If the county clerk cant get it right and unknowingly breaks the law, where the hell do we Stand?

Hey Ranger, does this mean you have to now pay him the extra $25? LOL
Nope he was good with the price..

Sorry Ranger, I was trying to lighten the mood, I trust you were right :)
That is ok there is NP.
 
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