Now that the law has changed concerning conceal carry in NY, how soon can someone apply for Conceal carry permit in the NYC area, for self defense only, without the fear of getting denied.
I fear the only thing this ruling will do is cause the lefty lemmings to go full steam ahead with outlandish rules. Anyone who thinks this is a win, I think will be sadly mistaken in the end. I certainly hope I am wrong.My guess? Never.
NY, and NYC, will do everything in their power to circumvent or outright ignore the SCOTUS ruling. If things actually change here in that regard, I think it will be a long time down the road.
I know I'm going to be denied. But today I submitted my request in writing to the judge here in Rockland County. They're still operating on the assumption that I must present "just cause" to get my permit unrestricted. (It's currently Sportsman/Residence).Reams of notices of intent to file claim just might persuade them they would be better served to follow the ruling. Where would we be if Brandon Koch and Robert Nash had the defeatist attitudes like some of you here. Man up and resist, stop giving up and fleeing the state. It will take work and commitment to make this state livable again. Stop letting someone else do it for you.
Why do you think you are going to be denied ? They’ll tell you to put sportsman prior to outright deny.I know I'm going to be denied. But today I submitted my request in writing to the judge here in Rockland County. They're still operating on the assumption that I must present "just cause" to get my permit unrestricted. (It's currently Sportsman/Residence).
So under the Just cause reasoning I put Self Defence as permitted by nysrpa v Bruen.
If/when denied maybe I can add my name to a class action suit. It may unfortunately take another lawsuit to make some counties comply with the result of the last lawsuit.
So what your saying is that everyone with restrictions on their license should just start outright concealed carry and worry about the law if and when it comes to it? I think showing good faith and proof that you made an effort to have all restrictions removed from your license might be in your favor if it comes to any legal action.Why even try to get the restrictions removed from your permit? The restriction have been judged invalid and that (seems to me) means that without doing anything else your restricted permit is now unrestricted and you may carry anywhere where a person with a permit marked "unrestricted" may carry. It was never against the law to carry your pistol with a restricted permit, it just meant that if you were caught doing so, and if the LEO wanted to push the issue, you could have your permit revoked.
To my understanding the SCOTUS decision simply challenges the idea of being denied an unrestricted (full carry) permit due to not showing 'proper cause'. The interpretation of proper cause was left in the hands of licensing officers (usually a judge or law enforcement officer) and they commonly denied people who they thought failed to show a reason for proper cause.After the courts decision why do you need a pistol permit?