[Darthgamer138]

I absolutely oppose any law requiring fake guns to be panted in ridiculous colors or clear.

Bloomberg has such laws. That should be reason enough to oppose such laws.

I had real looking airsoft and toy guns since I was a young teenager and here I stand.

 

[Darthgamer138]

Who said anything about laws? Bloomberg wants to ban them, I do not.

James

Laws are typically what comes of these "Airguns look too real!" discussions. California has tried to ban them with laws, NYC has banned them.

 

[Darthgamer138]

I'm talking about kids playing with them like we played with our toy guns when we were kids. Their is a huge difference between learning to shoot a weapon at some type of range with adult supervision and kids playing war or cops and robbers.

James

I know. I have no problem with that, and have a problem with taking that away.

Violent video games != real life. Violet movies != real life. Toy guns != real life. If a kid is too stupid to tell the difference between real and fake they really should be locked in a padded room at the asylum.

 

[Darthgamer138]

But not all guns are deadly weapons and not all should be treated as such. Again, if you have a kid too stupid to not know the difference and to not know you should not have either pointed at a cop then they really should not be anywhere but a padded room. The "but a cop might see it and bad things can happen!" is an absolute cop out. It is what the people that are one the actual "ban real looking fake guns" tirade spew. They pay no attention to the fact that a REAL gun and some pink spray paint are 2 objects that exist. Why put the cops in THAt danger? If you are stupid enough to draw ANYTHING, from a 9mm to a banana on a cop then you should be dealt with the same way.

 

[Darthgamer138]

I doubt you would put your children in a padded cell the minute you found out there may be something mentally wrong with them. All it takes is for the neighbor kid to give him a BB gun and him to scare the parents and have them call the cops, when the cop shows up and kills your child was it your fault for having a child that had a disability? Are you expected to have your tubes tied to make sure it doesn't happen again?

I understand what you are saying, I have seen friggin pink AR15s that I swear look so fake I'd be surprised if it even shot marshmallows let alone the high velocity 5.56 round it actually chambers, but saying "If you kid is too dumb to......etc." is a cop out in itself too, kids don't always listen and sometimes no one even knows anything is wrong with their child until they come out one day and he is drowning his little cousin without reason or cause, its disturbing but it happens, blaming the parents isn't the end all of solutions.

I'm sure you have done at least ONE thing in your life you knew you shouldn't have and that your parents would have or did forbid you from doing, if you had died anyway would it have been a case of "Well the kid was just too stupid, glad it happened, he deserved it." because now you are a perfectly functioning and concealed weapon carrying member of society.

What I'm getting at is that human nature is to do AT LEAST one or 2 stupid things, sometimes without explanation, in our lives, that shouldn't fall back onto our parents who forbid us to do those things in the first place or be treated as a "Well he was just too stupid to survive." type of situation.

Are you telling me I survived perfectly fine in a world filled with scary looking toy guns, violent video games, and violent media and did not grow up pointing guns at cops!? Are you saying the guns weren't the problem!? That is a shocker.

And herein lies the problem. The guns are not the problem. If we as humans could not tell the difference between real and fake then why are we not all jumping off skyscrapers with no fears because when we hit the ground we can hit the reset button right?

 

[Darthgamer138]

I'm not saying we have no fears and we cannot tell the difference between right and wrong, I'm saying younger kids are impossible to watch 24/7 no matter how hard you try and it is human nature to do something, at least once in your life that you know is wrong that is also very dangerous,we have all done it.

One kid threatens another with a fake gun, cops are called, he knows he is in big trouble and he knows it is wrong yet in his under-developed mind he says to himself "Maybe if I point this at the cops they will leave me alone and I'll just get grounded by my parents!" and before he even levels the BB gun at the cop he is dead.

All I was saying was I don't agree with the "teach parents to raise their kids." deal, blaming parents EVERY time a kid ****s up is the same as blaming all of us EVERY time some ******* does dumb **** with a firearm.

While I agree you can't ALWAYS blame the parents, given the state of (most) kids nowadays, it is BRUTALLY obvious where the problem is. It is NOT with the objects, it is with the parents. We can't blame them for everything, but we CAN blame them for a lot of the crap the kids are doing nowadays that is being blamed on nonsense stuff. Your kid is a little arson because you let him go behind the shed where the gasoline is for hours at a time unsupervised? He threw a molotov cocktail in the woods and started a forest fire!? That's it blame the glass-bottle manufacturers!