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Hunter whose bullet hit bus sentenced | WIVB.com

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RANDOLPH, N.Y. (WIVB) - The hunter who fired a shot and struck a school bus full of children will spend the next year behind bars.

William Donald Squire was sentenced Tuesday on charges of criminal mischief, reckless endangerment, and environmental conservation charges after being convicted in a jury trial in July.

Squire was on his own property in a tree stand when he fired his gun at a deer in November of 2011. He missed, and the deer slug continued across Route 241 and struck a Randolph bus. It nearly struck the driver, who was taking 35 students to school.
He must've been using one of those new, state-of-the-art, deer-slug-slinging rifles...LOL.

Thoughts? Was the punishment fair? I'm assuming his tree stand must've been elevated on a hill. On flat land I can't see this being much of an issue considering the downward trajectory of a shot out of a tree stand, though I suppose a ricochet is possible. Any way you slice it, shooting toward a road is not the best idea. Had it actually been a deer slug, not much chance it would've hit the bus.
 

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jury trail when it involves a school bus.... bad call
Agree. He was offered a reduced plea, but went with trial by jury instead. Either his defense attorney was an idiot, or he flat out ignored the advice from his attorney.
 

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Agree. He was offered a reduced plea, but went with trial by jury instead. Either his defense attorney was an idiot, or he flat out ignored the advice from his attorney.
One might say he decided to take a 'shot in the dark' by going to a jury trial?
("Ba-dump-bump!")
 
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Police say Squire was unaware he hit the bus until they approached him.
The cops may have had no more than a hunch so they approached Squire in a fishing expedition.
Squire probably felt all guilty and remorseful about accidentally hitting the school bus and was anxious to cooperate. So when the cops came to question him about the event he most likely volunteered all sorts of self-incriminating information, getting it off his chest.

"What you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."

There's an important lesson here:

1. Don't talk to the police.

2. Shut the F*%K up and get a lawyer.
 

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^ So it's really a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. I agree though that Squire shouldn't have talked unless there was a lawyer around.
 
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Printed November 23, 2011:

State Police and State Department of Environmental Conservation officers conducted the investigation. They say Squire turned himself in, and is cooperating.
So the Troopers didn't even have to go looking for Mr. Squire.

No good deed ever goes unpunished. Honesty is the best policy if you don't mind doing a year in the county lock-up.
 

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He should have taken a plea deal but chose to go to trial instead. If he did he most likely would not have gone to jail and would be fined, probation and loss of hunting for an extended time etc. All I know is if it was my son or daughters bus that got shot I would be so pissed at this guy because he could of killed my child!
 

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On reading the original article it appears he may have been the main instigator in his own sentence. It was at the his 'probationary officers recommendation' that he be given jail time. Sounds to me as though he wasnt taking the charges, and the consequences seriously, and ended up 'pulling the trigger' on himself, so to speak.

There's a time to draw a line in the sand and I think he picked the wrong sandpit.
 

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Aside from the fact that the guy was likely an idiot, I don't agree with sentencing someone to a year behind bars for an accident that simply resulted in some minor damage to a school bus. Could it have been worse? Of course, but what happened, happened. Doesn't mean the guy should be locked up behind bars. Revoke his hunting license, impose a fine, and require the guy to re-take the Hunter's safety course in order to have his hunting license reinstated.

So I guess next time someone nearly hits a pedestrian in their vehicle while yapping on their cell phone (that's about equally as negligent), they should expect to be arrested then convicted for almost injuring or killing someone...if the justice system is going to impose criminal penalties on hypothetical crimes, might as well do enforce across the board, right??

Judging by the fact that he was convicted by a Jury, it's probably safe to assume the following simple-minded logic factored into the conviction...

(1) All guns are evil
(2) Therefore, those who own/use guns are evil as well
(3) Evil people who use guns belong in jail

Let's not forget the Dr. Corasanti case (Amherst, NY) - guy knocked back some whiskey at the country club, got into his BMW over the DWI limit, then ran down and killed an 18 yr old girl, fled the scene, tampered with evidence, and lied to police. No felony conviction, and he got off with a light 1-yr sentence. Justice is blind, right?
 

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Let's not forget the Dr. Corasanti case (Amherst, NY) - guy knocked back some whiskey at the country club, got into his BMW over the DWI limit, then ran down and killed an 18 yr old girl, fled the scene, tampered with evidence, and lied to police. No felony conviction, and he got off with a light 1-yr sentence. Justice is blind, right?
Well that wasn't a gun and a school bus full of kids!

This guy tried to do the right thing and is gonna pay the price now. Without knowing the details of the case as far as where the bus was, where the deer was, where he was I can't say whether or not he deserves his sentence. I can say it appears they are trying to make an example of him and this should be a reminder to all you hunters......be sure of your target AND beyond.
 

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Let's not forget the Dr. Corasanti case (Amherst, NY) - guy knocked back some whiskey at the country club, got into his BMW over the DWI limit, then ran down and killed an 18 yr old girl, fled the scene, tampered with evidence, and lied to police. No felony conviction, and he got off with a light 1-yr sentence. Justice is blind, right?
Not color blind. Green is always seen...
 

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The cops may have had no more than a hunch so they approached Squire in a fishing expedition.
Squire probably felt all guilty and remorseful about accidentally hitting the school bus and was anxious to cooperate. So when the cops came to question him about the event he most likely volunteered all sorts of self-incriminating information, getting it off his chest.

"What you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."

There's an important lesson here:

1. Don't talk to the police.

2. Shut the F*%K up and get a lawyer.
This

Police can and will lie to make you admit something. Exercise the right to remain silent and have your lawyer if you are ever questioned about anything. Who cares if they don't think your a nice guy.

This guy did F up though.
 
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