I was just talking about this with a coworker yesterday who grew up in former Yugoslavia and knew what streets to play on because they were not bombing them today, lol. He and his family moved to New Orleans of all places before being hit by Katrina and its aftermath. So he knows a little about SHTF in a very real way. From his perspective he's thinking about moving back to Europe, possibly Germany. Says, if we're going to turn to Socialism anyway, might as well be where the infrastructure and lifestyle is better. He thinks its coming soon and it will be the economy that drives it. He said everybody got along in Yugoslavia when the economy was strong and everyone had jobs. He said there was a lot less diversity there than here, so if it could happen in Yugoslavia he really fears what could happen here. Interesting perspective. Oh, he also said those who have guns will be the survivors and I never talk about guns at work, lol.