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Next time....you do it for us. Hmm, I'd like to squat on waterfront too.

 

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So let me get this straight, they do not own the property but they live there? Sorry, if tax payers are paying for it and you never owned it then you need to leave. Has anyone been paying property taxes on this land?

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I'd like to squat on waterfront too.
Hell, I'd just like to be able to squat without bleeding, don't care where...
 

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July 16 3AM The SWAT team removes the last Furgaryins and fences off the Hudson River and 100 years of history.
 

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Someone want to give us the cliff notes?
 

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from the little I know families would go there for the last 100 years. Someone was researching the area for some reason and found out those people weren't supposed to be there. They were then told to leave and they failed to fight it on the grounds of squaters rights in time so they were forced to leave.
 

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So who actually owns the place?
 

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from the little I know families would go there for the last 100 years. Someone was researching the area for some reason and found out those people weren't supposed to be there. They were then told to leave and they failed to fight it on the grounds of squaters rights in time so they were forced to leave.
All those years living there and they did not pay a dime in taxes? Sounds like the need to go. You would think the past 100 years someone could have bought the land.

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It was never for sale just a sliver of land next to a sewer plant that was claimed by nothing.
 

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So they were staying on land that wasn't theirs.

GTFO
 

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The building, I'll loosely call it a house, on my property was built by squatters.

Folks from Westchester bought it as a retirement land and local folks decided to build there as they never came up and looked at it. Imagine their surprise when they found out some shacks and a foundation was built on it.

Family still lives in the area.....they just up and moved to someone elses place for awhile and they got kicked off there too. Someone gave them an acre and their crap is there now. LOL
 

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Honestly, you don't live there, you don't own the land, i'm not sure why this is even a topic?

If this lame thread is going to stay up, can a mod please at least edit the title? It should be "google:"... not something you wear over your face when swimming or skiing or skydiving or riding a motorcycle w/out a full helmet w/ a semi colon after it
 

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I'm having a hard time figuring out where all the resentment is coming from here, So what if these people stayed there. I'm sure noone gave a hoot that they were there. 100 years of being occupied?? Noone ever noticed until recently??? C'mon. There ain't a mansion or lavish anything there. Living pretty much poor it appears. My guess is someone that owns property near this place considered it an "eyesore" OR whomever owned the land is planning on selling and caused this to happen. 100years of people being there and NOW someone makes the decision to throw them out? I say it's bull!! Were they harming anyone? I don't know for sure since it's pretty vague, BUT I highly doubt many people would choose to purchase this land and live next to a sewage plant. Would you?? To me this is another step in the communist direction and it's a shame. No harm no foul in my eyes. I know, I know ... "But they didn't pay taxes!!" ... well .... good for them for being smarter than most. I will say there is probably more to this than I've seen and maybe I'm completely in the wrong in my way of thinking.

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The Hudson Common Council recently approved a plan to give land the city owns beneath the Hudson River to the state of New York in exchange for a parcel on the city's swampy North Bay containing the waste water treatment plant (WWTP). The transaction is a necessary step before the city can build the new $9 million WWTP, which has received $4.4 million in federal stimulus funding.

This transaction has raised concerns among members of an eccentric boat club of questionable legitimacy, located on the bay within the 14.49 acre property soon to be acquired by the city.


There you have it ..... GREED once again. Congrats NYS!!! Anyone else know this was an old fishing town??? Maybe I'll start a petition to have it saved as a historical site and ask those that lived there to "be the caretakers". What a shame. Someone wants this "swampy" land ... wait ... isn't it illegal to build on WETLANDS??? Oh wait ... this is a govt thing so it's fine I'm sure. Pfft.
 

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Actually, a society which respects property rights (ie you can't be there if you don't own it) is in direct contrast with Communism, which argues against private property and supports collective ownership. To argue against it would be far more supportive of Communism than those who have criticized the family above.

In the US, property is not a right. If you make it a right, solely because of the duration of occupation, where do you draw the line?
 

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Actually, a society which respects property rights (ie you can't be there if you don't own it) is in direct contrast with Communism, which argues against private property and supports collective ownership. To argue against it would be far more supportive of Communism than those who have criticized the family above.

In the US, property is not a right. If you make it a right, solely because of the duration of occupation, where do you draw the line?
Been to a casino lately?? Native Americans are Communists? Hmmmm .... LOL Maybe I don't quite understand your definition of communism. I wonder why they didn't just offer these people the land and sell to them what they use? Anyways, here's the rest of the story.

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The Furgary Boat Club has sat unregistered, untaxed, and undisturbed, at the end of Front Street, in the north bay for 100 years or more, some say. The commotion about the property has "members" worrying the city could soon challenge their claim to the land, their makeshift cabins, and their family heritage.

"Hell yes we're worried," said a Fugarian who asked to remain nameless, standing on the waters edge next to his cabin. "We're worried we're going to lose it all."

The man said his cabin had been passed down through his family and he's had claim to it for around 30 years. He pointed to a pile of boards leaned up against his ramshackle structure, said they were for building a new deck but he isn't about to start anytime soon if the city is going to take their land away.

At best the history of the Furgary Boat Club is vague and unverifiable. It was started as a simple conglomeration of shacks and boat slips for fisherman and hunters to camp and party, and remains in essentially the same condition today. The only way to acquire a shack is to have it handed down by a relative. There are rumored to be symbolic deeds to prove "ownership" of the lots within the club.

"A few of us maintain the place," said Steve Brenner, caretaker of the Furgary's clubhouse bar. "Everybody helps out from cabin to cabin."

Members say they even clean out the bay when there's overflow of garbage from the Waste Water Treatment Plant during heavy rain. An overflow pipe from the plant empties into the Furgary's port. There is no running water or pluming in the Furgary but there is metered electricity and satellite television, all of which they claim to pay for.

One thing is known for sure about the club, members do not own their land or pay taxes. The property was believed city-owned, or possibly by the railroad company, but earlier this summer, as part of an ongoing title search of the Hudson waterfront, the Columbia Land Conservancy discovered the property is state-owned and in the same parcel as the WWTP.

The city will soon swap 9.04 acres of underwater real-estate for the area containing Furgary and members worry that it's only a matter of time before the city Common Council votes to turn their squatter's paradise into a park, or decides the plant needs to knock their cabins down to run new pipe into the bay.

The Furgary situation was discussed over the years as the City's Local Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP) Committee outlined a future for the waterfront, but due to the Furgary's undesirable location and established and complicated presence, the issue was pushed aside.

The group Friends of Hudson responded negatively to the LWRP's lack of attention to the Furgary. "The LWRP Steering Committee should not have shied away from confronting this complicated and delicate issue," the group wrote said in a statement. "The LWRP should have included the Furgary issue... and dealt with it as an underutilized asset and opportunity. The Draft LWRP should recommend a strategy to be undertaken by the city that could free this valuable resource for public access, honor the historical use by the Furgary and perhaps create a potential revenue stream for the city and the Furgary."

Friends of Hudson did not give any advice on how to honor the Furgary's history while making it accessible to others. The anonymous Fugarian, who spoke with the Register-Star Thursday, said he believed that the club has historical significance and believes it should be protected as a Hudson landmark. "Of course it's historic," he said. "It has been around as long as probably anything else here. We have a right to be here."

Others are more skeptical about the clubs significance given it's somewhat shabby appearance and unofficial status. Historian Patricia Fenoff said she really didn't know anything about the history of the Furgary Boat Club. "Historically I don't see how it's important," she said.

While club members may be worried about the future of their slice of the river, officials have said nothing publicly about any change in policy towards the club as a result of the upcoming land swap. "There's never any trouble down there," Mayor Richard Scalera said. "My position is clear. Nobody bothers them unless some one has interest in buying the land. I don't look at that land as valuable to anyone, except them."

Furgarians said they trust the mayor's word, there's even an "Elect Scalera" bumper sticker on one cabin door, but they do not have the same faith in the common council. "Everybody wants to turn the Denny's into a Ritz Carlton," one man said. "We like Denny's."
 
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