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read the comments on the RONI. they say its OK until you put your pistol in it. Then its an SBR. cool looking though.
 

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here is the comment

Checked this out Sunday at the Lakeland Gun show.
The claims that you do not have to register this seem to be false. I was looking one over and a young man asked to see one and bought it on the spot. He was told by the seller that he should send in for his paper work from the feds before purchasing his Glock.
This tells me that stand alone, you do not have to register it, but as soon as you put your pictol into it, it becomes an SBR.
Not an issue really, but, it is not as simple as they state on the RONI web site. I think this is because of the barrel shroud not actually extending the barrel to the 16 inches required. But, I'm not sure if the Seller got it wrong or was not wanting to do anything less than err on the side of CYA just in case.
The shroud would end up measure 16 inches from the chamber to the end. But not sure if it has to be from the chamber to the crown (ie: Threaded barrel with a barrel extension)
 

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The main advantage to a pistol caliber carbine in my opinion is the longer barrel. For those prices you might as well spend the money and get an actual pistol caliber carbine.
 

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Get a Kel-Tec Sub-2k and use Glock mags! :)
 
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The main advantage to a pistol caliber carbine in my opinion is the longer barrel. For those prices you might as well spend the money and get an actual pistol caliber carbine.
The longer barrel of a pistol caliber carbine seldom gives you any significant velocity increase. Here is an example where tripling the barrel length gained 15-fps:

More often than not pistol caliber carbines are purchased so the buyer can pretend he has a submachinegun.
Granted, a 9mm version of the AR can be useful for indoor practice at ranges that cannot or will not accommodate rifles. Otherwise I see little use for something the size of a carbine that shoots pistol ammunition.
 

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Get a Kel-Tec Sub-2k and use Glock mags! :)
Whole reason why I wanted one, too many "ifs & questions" for those conversions kits.

The longer barrel of a pistol caliber carbine seldom gives you any significant velocity increase. Here is an example where tripling the barrel length gained 15-fps:

More often than not pistol caliber carbines are purchased so the buyer can pretend he has a submachinegun.
Granted, a 9mm version of the AR can be useful for indoor practice at ranges that cannot or will not accommodate rifles. Otherwise I see little use for something the size of a carbine that shoots pistol ammunition.
I like to pretend and make machine gun noises when I go to the range. Some it's on my couch. ;)
 

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The longer barrel of a pistol caliber carbine seldom gives you any significant velocity increase. Here is an example where tripling the barrel length gained 15-fps:

More often than not pistol caliber carbines are purchased so the buyer can pretend he has a submachinegun.
Granted, a 9mm version of the AR can be useful for indoor practice at ranges that cannot or will not accommodate rifles. Otherwise I see little use for something the size of a carbine that shoots pistol ammunition.
I know it makes a more significant difference in 9mm (than .40) and a pretty big difference in .357 mag. But I agree with you. A 16 inch AR would make much more sense if someone had the money to spend on it. The carbines seem to be pretty cheap.
 

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So is there a difference between a AR carbine than a keltec sub 2000 other than platform? Seems that if you where going to add a longer barrel to a glock, you'd be better off with any carbine so the stock would given you more control & support ?
 

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The longer barrel of a pistol caliber carbine seldom gives you any significant velocity increase. Here is an example where tripling the barrel length gained 15-fps:

More often than not pistol caliber carbines are purchased so the buyer can pretend he has a submachinegun.
Granted, a 9mm version of the AR can be useful for indoor practice at ranges that cannot or will not accommodate rifles. Otherwise I see little use for something the size of a carbine that shoots pistol ammunition.
Feet per second isnt whats important.. the longer barrel makes the gun more accurate at longer ranges.. "Pretending to have a SMG" has nothing to do with it.. shooting a rifle for the cost of 9mm ammo is whats good about them

EDIT: btw I highly doubt the rifle shot EXACTLY 1000fps and the handgun EXACTLY 985..
 
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