[barlowROC]

I started out the week reading the thread on the 15+ month wait some are experiencing, which left me feeling insulted by the ludicrous length of the process, overhead and delays associated with getting a pistol permit, then read how some counties take less time than others, and how the law isn't being applied equally, and was riled up enough to contact my two state Senators.

The one whose district covers my place of work, and the one who covers my place of residence, and complained.

Yes, I filed a civil rights complaint. I pointed out how the county offices and state government are violating the equal protection clause of the US constitution. I pointed out how ludicrous the delays are, in this day and age, how background checks are electronic and these things don't take months to do, so they shouldn't take months for a bureaucracy to process and how if the state wants your money, they act immediately and without hesitation, but when you exercise your rights, they delay and interfere. And also stated, frankly, the state should do away with these requirements and become a free state.

Not sure if this will help, but I feel a little better having attempted to alert the Senators of our plight. Not that I'm naive enough to believe they'll respond in a positive way.

What would be a good next step?

Does joining the NRA or other handgun advocacy group do anything for our right to carry?

I'm interested enough to campaign against these bozos.

 

[rpf427]

Amen brother........the law and the process should be uniform....with no individual interpretations, regardless of personal views

 

[11B]

I hope you added the restriction policy by some counties in the great state of NY as well.

I wonder if a petition requesting speedy process and the removal of the ability for counties to impose restrictions were signed by every gun owner/supporter were delivered to the steps on Albany our elected representatives would actually do anything.

Its a wishful idea that our democratic process would work so fairly for those effected by unfair restrictions. A ny state issued permit is just that. Its not a county specific permit. If that was the case then the county could drag their feet and impose restrictions.

If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time. But that's my take on it.

Great job though taking the time giving a solid arguement on a simple process that takes some counties forever

 

[twisted]

Run for office, I'd vote for you.

 

[11B]

I been told that before after heated discussions on various hot button topics, just commen sense lol
But like any normal , level headed , common sense individual I have skeletons in the closet.
Nothing illegal mind you but a fun youth, a few ladies in my life, and some strong personal beliefs , I would be a medias hay day lol

Honestly, any working blue collar person who has to work for a living, struggled at times to juggle things would make a great representative.
Look at our countries congress and senate and it's filled with millionaires. This country is held up and built by blue collar. Represented by white collar

 

[rochram_1968]

I have been preaching to do exactaly what you did for a long time now. Next??? I will tell you what needs to be done next...every person that is waiting for a permit, and every person that has recceived restrictions need to call or write their senators and representives now.

 

[11B]

I think to be successful at a legal, acceptable petition to represent to albany a lot of prep work needs to be done. We would want to do it right, organized and have signatures thru out ny.

I know there are gun shows and outdoor expos thru out ny state. Have a booth set up at each event staffed with volunteers manning and collecting valid signatures. We want to be where our signers would be. No knocking on doors, cause we all hate that. Lol And when all said and done with submit to Albany.

I really have no idea how or where to start

Actually research and write up petition ( legal mumbo jumbo )
Get volunteers from each county/ set up directors to organize collect store signatures
seek assistance from scope/NRA
fundraiser cause this time and age things cost and that's just how it is. ( gun raffles and donations)

Of course I'm probably missing tons of stuff but with a knowledge base here, some volunteers from each county in a year we could submit something substantial, organized. Do it right and maybe something will change.

Yeah it's great if everyone emails but a petition signed and validated with 100,000 signatures be nice pro gun press and maybe wake up officials were getting organized grass root style

Get gun shops, ranges, clubs, man out door expos gun shows and well, WOW

 

[arizonajack]

Here's one good way of solving the problem.

Vote out the politicians who support the status quo permit process.

Vote in politicians who will change the laws to streamline the process.

Your incumbents aren't going to change anything until they learn that they can be booted out if they don't.