[gvfd107]

I am hosting a party and renting out the hall at the local fire department. I am unsure if the fire house qualifies as a governmental agency and has the same laws like the post office where you cannot carry. Anyone got any insight on this?

 

[Prominus]

It's not federal.

18 U.S.C. § 930 : US Code - Section 930: Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

 

[blackpowdershooter30]

It would be different if you were a member. Now with me being a fire fighter I can probably help with this. Is it the physical fire house or is it like a exempts hall or carnival grounds?

 

[BrianS]

It would be different if you were a member. Now with me being a fire fighter I can probably help with this. Is it the physical fire house or is it like a exempts hall or carnival grounds?

You saying members can't carry?

 

[gvfd107]

You saying members can't carry?

Bump this question because I forgot to mention I am a member.. I didn't think membership status would make a difference

 

[gvfd107]

And the party in on grounds inside the building and out utilizing kitchen, dining hall, and outside pavillion

 

[blackpowdershooter30]

On the contrary members can carry as long as a firearms policy isn't instated in your s.o.g.'s. If it's not a in the physical fire house as a civilian you are good. If it's on let's say a association property or a benevolent group it's up to the discretion of them because it's their property. If it's a district or fire protection district property and you are a civilian that is against the law. Firemen are different because you a technically considered a government official or sorts. Does this make sense.

 

[K2Ballistics]

You being a member is one of your biggest considerations because your FD's by-laws and/or SOG's apply to you , where they would not to a non-member. Most FD's have a rental agreement as well. Look it over, carefully. Something else to think about....If a call comes in, do you plan on responding? Your SOG's kick in if you do. etc

Who owns the grounds? Are you a Fire Company that owns your own building (sounds like it), a Fire District, or does the municipality own the building? If municipal owned, I can almost guarantee they have a firearms policy covering their buildings. If you are a private FC, you only need be concerned with your company's policies.

Returning to the response thing.... for a lot of VFD's in NY, as soon as you are activated, you become a municipal employee for insurance purposes. This includes your vehicle while responding. So, you absolutely need to know ahead of time what you are going to do with your firearm prior to lighting up the blue.

 

[3444]

Nothing Federal or state prohibits this as long as you are legally able to posses firearm however you need to verify the departments policies on firearms on the premise or workplace. Check by-laws, and policies.

 

[Jmo371]

My company doesnt have a firearms policy....they said just stop askig questions there

 

[Prominus]

Nothing Federal or state prohibits this as long as you are legally able to posses firearm however you need to verify the departments policies on firearms on the premise or workplace. Check by-laws, and policies.

Keep in mind even if they do have a policy you can still legally carry there. If they caught you (not sure how they would it's concealed) their only recourse is to ask you to leave.

 

[Bllade]

Our district instituted a no firearms policy about 20 years ago after a member who is also a local cop had a negligent discharge of his service weapon one evening. having said that the policy only relates to active members of the Rept. but even then the unwritten rule is Don't ask/Don't tell.

 

[Cerakoted]

Carry at my firehall...

 

[jayk500]

Dare I say it??

 

[Buckshot]

Dare I say it??

concealed is concealed ?

 

[gvfd107]

ill check with our bylaws and S.O.G.'s
Then report back

 

[Prominus]

ill check with our bylaws and S.O.G.'s
Then report back

It doesn't matter!

 

[jayk500]

concealed is concealed ?

Did my signature line give it away??

 

[gvfd107]

It doesn't matter!

it matters to me, if I do not follow my bylaws and sog's then I can be expelled from fighting fires which I love to do

 

[jayk500]

it matters to me, if I do not follow my bylaws and sog's then I can be expelled from fighting fires which I love to do

Which do you love more? Fighting fires or having the means to defend your life?

I get what you're saying, but nobody's by-laws, sog, fancy sign, or anything else is going to prevent me from legally carrying my legally concealed weapon, anywhere. If you keep it concealed it will never ever ever even be an issue until you have to unconceal it, at which time your life is in danger and the last thing on your mind would/should be "bylaws"

Just my opinion.