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IF I build my own AR15 from an 80% lower with no s/n will it be legal in NYS?

That is to say it is an actual assault rifle, quick mag release, sliding butt stock 16" barrel and so on.

and if it will not be leagal, what can I do to make it NYS legal?
 

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According to law, you CAN manufacture a firearm for your own personal use IF you are legally allowed to own said firearm. HOWEVER, that firearm MUST be compliant with laws in your local jurisdiction. You are not allowed to manufacture an assault weapon.
 

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as long as it is featureless or does not have the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

fyi you can buy a regular stripped lower at a lgs(just making sure you know)


what 80% lower are you using?
 

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IF I build my own AR15 from an 80% lower with no s/n will it be legal in NYS?

That is to say it is an actual assault rifle, quick mag release, sliding butt stock 16" barrel and so on.

and if it will not be leagal, what can I do to make it NYS legal?
well, making an "assault" rifle has been illegal since 1986.
Gunsick1 is right, use search. tons of info on this
 

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I can give you the nitty gritty of it. Yes, you can build an AR from an 80% lower. However, you have to follow the current laws of your state. So, you can not put a barrel under 16" on it and that barrel can NOT be threaded to accept a muzzle device per NY state law. Also, you can NOT put a pistol grip on it - so, you will have to get a NY compliant stock for it. You can NOT have a front sight with a bayonet lug on it. The actual text of the SAFE Act for NY must be on this forum somewhere I'm guessing. You need to read it and then build the rifle in compliance with it. Yes, the SAFE Act is about as dumb as any legislation can be and isn't going to help anyone be safe. But, until it gets thrown out as unconstitutional you have to abide by it to stay out of jail if you get caught violating it.

I know this isn't exactly the answer you hoped for but I darn sure don't want good folks to end up in jail for for not knowing the law as it currently is.
-Will-
 

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So playing devil's advocate here but let's say someone builds an AR from 80%. This has no serial number and with that no BGC. Who is to say this Rifle you built was not built before the Safe act, but because of its origin was not registered? I am not suggesting that anyone else do this, just poking yet another hole in a ridiculous law.
 

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Im in the same boat you just don't know what the hell you can or can't do
 

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This really is just logical. I mean, if the rifle is not able to be registered and was built before this went down, how could it be deemed illegal?
 

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So playing devil's advocate here but let's say someone builds an AR from 80%. This has no serial number and with that no BGC. Who is to say this Rifle you built was not built before the Safe act, but because of its origin was not registered? I am not suggesting that anyone else do this, just poking yet another hole in a ridiculous law.
When safe act passed you were supposed to either make it compliant or register it. I am guessing you could have scratched a serial number on it and registered it just like putting homemade pistols on your permit. There are "supposed" to be two types of AR15s in ny, compliant or registered. Pick one
 

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When safe act passed you were supposed to either make it compliant or register it. I am guessing you could have scratched a serial number on it and registered it just like putting homemade pistols on your permit. There are "supposed" to be two types of AR15s in ny, compliant or registered. Pick one
And registration ended, so now you have one option, compliant.

Within compliance, there are 2 categories, featureless, or featured but a fixed magazine.
 

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And registration ended, so now you have one option, compliant.

Within compliance, there are 2 categories, featureless, or featured but a fixed magazine.
outside of compliance there is option #3: real AR with all the scary features (you know, like the ones legal in 47 other states), FUAC!
 

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There might still be a way to register a 80% lower as an AW if you really want to. Since you are supposed to have a 30 grace period to register a rifle that you thought was compliant.

Put a Bullet Button, MR2 or T nut fix on it and tell them although many people this made the rifle compliant others disagree and you don't want to take a chance.

Cut off the pistol grip and then tell them (as I was told on the SAFE hotline) that was not acceptable because you could just put on another grip( at which point i told him every part of an AR can be changed and he replied that he wasn't a gun smith), and you did not want to take a chance.

Now, I have a question about a home made rifle. How do you get rid of it? I do not believe you can transfer one.
 

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You can sell it IF you put a serial number, city of manufacture, and your name on it. I'm pretty sure it needs a model number, and caliber also. Just don't do it often (how often is up to interpretation, so after the first one, who knows), because then you are manufacturing without a license. The safest bet is to strip the thing, destroy the receiver, and sell the parts if you don't want it any more.
 
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