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I fired off $50 the other day. The NRA performs an essential task and performs it well, despite all its other warts. Without it we'd have lost 2A rights decades ago.

They have done great things in NY. Can you tell me where I can go buy recent production standard capacity mags in ny?

I have considered joining because I am for gun rights but I despise all lobby groups.

 

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Touche. Got me there. NY is hopeless, but that's not the NRA's fault.

haha you are correct! It's not the NRA'a fault. I don't think NY is hopeless yet. But we are getting there...

 

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Sorry, I got bored and skipped through most of this thread. Have to read the fine print where the money donated to ILA goes; I'm thinking higher % than the overall organization. You also need to keep in mind that the stats are prepared at the end of their fiscal year, so assuming they already covered their costs, incrementally every extra dollar donated goes to the cause. I'm a life member and already gave separately to ILA this year. Received the same e-mail today. When I get home, I'll send them another $125 even though I can't really afford it and will probably catch hell from my wife tomorrow. Franky if $0.05 goes towards defeating Obama this Nov I'll rest peacefully. Its not about what's in it for me in NY, its about the country. Thanks for posting.

If you want to give money to defeat Obama perhaps a donation to Mitt might have been more in order. That NRA email is a joke. Do they actually think people are dumb enough to believe they beat Kerry and Gore?

 

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Taylor swift and Ray Lewis never called and asked me for money. I ask again:

What has the NRA done for gun rights in NY?

 

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On a personal note, what I choose to do with my money is no concern of yours or anybody elses for that matter. Suggest you worry about your own affairs and not mine.

Then don't post that you just gave more money to the NRA to defeat Obama on a forum. If you post something in public expect comments. My affairs are in order. I donate money to worthy causes and participate in fundraisers all the time. I just don't brag about it and give the dollar amounts in public.

 

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Not bragging, I was responding directly to the OP. Never suggested or implied anyone else should do the same or differently for that matter. Never requested opinions where my contribution would be better served.

Opinions are what you get on forums. Like it or not. I will never donate to a lobbying group. Even if they represent what I believe in. Legal bribery is a disease in this county. I complain about it all the time so I can't be a part of it. I welcome all your opinions ad I have posted this on a public forum.

 

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separate NYC from the rest of the state - and everything should work out just fine

There it is yet again! The only way NY will be 2a friendly. Make them the peoples republic of bloomburgh and let the rest of us be NY!

 

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Did that email say what 11 states they were targeting? Also, how do they get lists of gun owners? Is that public record? They started sending me stuff after I started buying guns.

 

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A lot. Sometimes it's the bad laws you don't have that you appreciate the least. I think we can all imagine how much worse things could be. Last I knew, we still don't have a microstamping law. Why is that?


NRA unloads $217G to N.Y. pols

KENNETH LOVETT
Wednesday, April 11, 2012

ALBANY - The National Rifle Association has taken aim at New York, doling out more campaign donations in the Empire State over the last nine years than in any other in state in the nation.
The prime target: defeating Mayor Bloomberg's push for microstamping of bullet casings, which backers say would be an effective crimefighting tool.
Since 2003, the NRA has reported giving New York legislators and political committees $217,400 - the organization's largest outlay over that period.

I don't think microstamping would have passed even without the NRA. Is that 217K since 2003? Please tell me it's $217 million

""The purpose of this bill is honorable. However, the technology and execution of microstamping is fundamentally flawed. This measure presumes a crime will be committed with legally-obtained and New York State-manufactured and sold firearms. The means criminals have at their disposal to circumvent microstamping vastly outweigh any belief that microstamping will succeed where the New York Combined Ballistic Identification System (CoBIS), which also catalogued spent shell casings to the specific firearm, absolutely failed," said Burling

"Twelve years of unsuccessful attempts to connect shell casings found at a crime scene to a specific firearm under CoBIS have drained resources, funding and staff power from the state and local law enforcement agencies. Microstamping would only continue this failed system. In fact, microstamping would not account for shells fired from revolvers, significantly increase manufacturing costs for our New York State firearm manufacturers like Remington Arms and Kimber, and effectively ban any out-of-state or international firearms from being purchased by law-abiding citizens for recreation or personal defense," said Burling.

"Remington Arms has said it will leave this state if it is forced to make the significant and costly changes to its assembly lines necessary to incorporate microstamping. This bill doesn't fight crime; it effectively takes firearms out of the homes of law-abiding citizens and destroys a viable New York State industry," said Burling."

No elected official wants to be responsible for losing jobs due to a law that would not ever work.

 

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To those who don't give to the NRA in principal but do give to other organizations for the cause, I acknowledge and respect your contribution even though I think you are wrong. To those of you who enjoy your 2nd Amendment rights but don't contribute, I will call you FREELOADER.

Didn't know you has to give money to lobbyist groups to have rights. I really don't think the NRA has done much for NY (and a couple other states). Just my opinion! I think money can be better used on ammo in case they actually try to take our guns! :nerd: