appendix carry

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RM08

Discussion Starter · Jul 18, 2012

the other day browsing around the web i came across a guy talking about appendix carry using a crossbreed holster. this was the first time i ever heard someone say they use a crossbreed holster to carry towards the front of their body. i went and grabbed my oldfaithful holster which is the same style as a crossbreed and tried it out. it actually might work for me. the gun also seemed concealed easier than carrying at my normal position of 8 oclock ( left handed) seemed great if i were wearing a tee shirt that wasnt extra loose.

what are your guys, and gals, thoughts on appendix carry? do you carry this way? think its a good/bad method of carry? what about carrying appendix with a crossbreed or something similar? just looking to discuss the topic.

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ScotchMan

· #21 · Jul 19, 2012

FishDude said:
I disagree good sir. Muzzle discipline can be maintained when carrying.

Please explain why I will occasionally sweep something?

Well, other than the dog mentioned earlier, a gun going off from 3:30 would probably tear through some flesh (I recall that guy with the Serpa had entry and exit holes several inches apart on his leg). It would shoot your car if you were driving. I suspect it covers feet and legs occasionally while walking. Certainly it covers less important things, less often, but strictly speaking the rule isn't being observed 100% of the time.

My point wasn't so much to say that carrying is unsafe; I believe both methods to be extremely safe. More just that the act of carrying a loaded firearm somewhat goes against the rules the NRA has set out for us. Don't they train that guns and ammunition should be stored separately at all times for example?

I am glad we have options, and don't think traditional carry is bad necessarily. It is a safe and prudent way to carry, and builds in an additional level of safety if something DOES go wrong. And it's certainly more comfortable. I just feel that AIWB has a lot of advantages and that the safety thing is overstated online.

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zeke1975

· #22 · Jul 20, 2012

I appendix carry a G19 in a zack trigger guard holster. I like the holster as it keeps my trigger guard covered well before the gun goes into the belt and stays on until the gun is well clear of the pants. I find it to be much more comfortable to carry appendix than the 4:00 postion I used to use. May not be all that comfortable for those with successful life bodies though. The positon has many benefits, you can access your gun quickly as it's in the centerline of your body, near where you'd keep your hands normally, you can draw easily if you've been knocked to the ground on your back (not so easy carrying at 4:00), and it's one of the better positions to draw from if you're seat belted into your car (crossdraw is also nice there).

OnPatrol

· #23 · Jul 20, 2012

Like ScotchMan, I also recently switched to appendix carry. I find that I can conceal my gun better and I have a quality Kydex holster that keeps the trigger guard covered when holstered.

ChrisFry

· #24 · Jul 20, 2012

Just some food for thought. AIWB is NOT for everyone, there will always be people who think it is dangerous and breaks the 4 rules just like there will always be people who think guns should be banned. It is not for beginners to be sure. http://www.mdtstraining.com/The%20Efficacy%20of%20Centerline%20Primary%20Tool%20Carry.pdf

ECU Pirates

· #25 · Jul 20, 2012

ChrisFry said:
Just some food for thought. AIWB is NOT for everyone, there will always be people who think it is dangerous and breaks the 4 rules just like there will always be people who think guns should be banned. It is not for beginners to be sure.

[url]http://www.mdtstraining.com/The Efficacy of Centerline Primary Tool Carry.pdf[/URL]

For some reason your links (To MDTS) never work, is your site down often?

kennjen

· #26 · Jul 20, 2012

jhm8071 said:
I don't carry appendix, but do have an M&P. I usually just put the gun in the holster when it is not on my body, then put the holster on. There is virtually no chance at a discharge doing it this way.

Okey....but what about when you go training and reholster ?

If you are not practicing reholstering the gun, I'd be deathly afraid that I won't do it right, when I have to.

kennjen

· #27 · Jul 20, 2012 (Edited)

Just to add my 2 cents to "AIWB not being safe".

-Most carry methods sweep your own body while being holstered. I've seen pictures to prove it.
-To each their own, it's not for every one.
Depending up on the gun carried and techniques/knowledge being employed, perhaps AIWB is not for you.

BTW..Have you seen this video of a "Grand Master" drawing from AIWB ? It's amazing. It's bordering an art form.

Jim Zubiena in SLOW MOTION - YouTube

This recently inspired me to practice my draw a lot more.

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ChrisFry

· #28 · Jul 20, 2012

ECU Pirates said:
For some reason your links (To MDTS) never work, is your site down often?

ECU, the link works fine for me, I posted a direct link to the PDF file. It doesn't look the way you have it quoted in my browser?? No, my site is rarely down.

ECU Pirates

· #29 · Jul 20, 2012

ChrisFry said:
ECU, the link works fine for me, I posted a direct link to the PDF file. It doesn't look the way you have it quoted in my browser?? No, my site is rarely down.

Very strange, it always times out for me. I have never been able to access your website and I have tried multiple times.

ChrisFry

· #30 · Jul 20, 2012

ECU Pirates said:
Very strange, it always times out for me. I have never been able to access your website and I have tried multiple times.

Huh. I have tested it with most all the major browsers. Which one are you using?

Thanks for your assitance with this.

Chris

ECU Pirates

· #31 · Jul 20, 2012 (Edited)

ChrisFry said:
Huh. I have tested it with most all the major browsers. Which one are you using?

Thanks for your assitance with this.

Chris

No problem, I have tried with firefox and exploer. Maybe its just my computer?

RM08

Discussion Starter · #32 · Jul 21, 2012

ChrisFry said:
Just some food for thought. AIWB is NOT for everyone, there will always be people who think it is dangerous and breaks the 4 rules just like there will always be people who think guns should be banned. It is not for beginners to be sure.

[url]http://www.mdtstraining.com/The Efficacy of Centerline Primary Tool Carry.pdf[/URL]

very nice article chris, good bits of information. once i get my new carry belt im gonna need to test of this method more.

ChrisFry

· #33 · Jul 23, 2012

Thanks RM08

Dieter122

· #34 · Jul 23, 2012

kennjen said:
Okey....but what about when you go training and reholster ?

If you are not practicing reholstering the gun, I'd be deathly afraid that I won't do it right, when I have to.

i just dont get it either.

if someone is afraid of a ND from holstering their pistol, that scares me. :err:

NirvanaFan

· #35 · Jul 23, 2012

kennjen said:
Okey....but what about when you go training and reholster ?

If you are not practicing reholstering the gun, I'd be deathly afraid that I won't do it right, when I have to.

When I'm out in the field/woods training, I reholster when the holster is already in. I'm usually by myself, carrying at 3:30 or 4:00. It is hard to see if something catches on the trigger when you are holstering the firearm behind you. If I happen to catch the trigger or something, I may shoot myself in the rear, but probably would just get some burns. Not a big deal. When at home or somewhere else, I put the gun in the holster, then put the holster on. I'm not scared of holstering it or anything, but why take that chance at home when there is my wife and 16 month old kid running around? The gun isn't going to go off in the holster, but you never know when putting it in the holster, especially with a light trigger.

NirvanaFan

· #36 · Jul 23, 2012

Dieter122 said:
i just dont get it either.

if someone is afraid of a ND from holstering their pistol, that scares me. :err:

It's not about being scared. It's about mitigating risk when it makes sense to.

2wheeler

· #37 · Jul 23, 2012

Just feels wrong.....Tried it for a little bit but just dont care for it. I feel like its wrong to carry that way as so much more pointed to my body and what not. but thats just me.

RM08

Discussion Starter · #38 · Jul 23, 2012 (Edited)

jhm8071 said:
When I'm out in the field/woods training, I reholster when the holster is already in. I'm usually by myself, carrying at 3:30 or 4:00. It is hard to see if something catches on the trigger when you are holstering the firearm behind you. If I happen to catch the trigger or something, I may shoot myself in the rear, but probably would just get some burns. Not a big deal. When at home or somewhere else, I put the gun in the holster, then put the holster on. I'm not scared of holstering it or anything, but why take that chance at home when there is my wife and 16 month old kid running around? The gun isn't going to go off in the holster, but you never know when putting it in the holster, especially with a light trigger.

i personally believe that in any situation if you ever needed to pull your firearm out it should not be put back away until the threat is delt with accordingly or the situation is now safe, at which point you should be able to clear around you and when safe turn your head to watch the gun while reholstering to make sure nothing catches the trigger. if you dont feel comfortable with looking down to make sure holstering is done safely than that to me means the threat is still present and gun should stay out. thats just my opinion

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