[Joe357]

So this coward issued the TRO but stayed it for three business days so NY can appeal to the second circuit.

I don't have much faith in the second circuit keeping the TRO in place.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829/gov.uscourts.nynd.134829.27.0.pdf

 

[OwnTheRide]

I think it's unfair to call him a coward. He's following standard legal procedure.

This is good news - a small and temporary victory, but a victory nonetheless. If the 2nd circuit doesn't quash the TRO (and I agree, that is a big "if"!), then we can once again carry... until October 20th, at least (/grumble). That's when the TRO would expire, as that is when the hearing on the injunction is scheduled.

 

[Joe357]

I think it's unfair to call him a coward. He's following standard legal procedure.

This is good news - a small and temporary victory, but a victory nonetheless. If the 2nd circuit doesn't quash the TRO (and I agree, that is a big "if"!), then we can once again carry... until October 20th, at least (/grumble). That's when the TRO would expire, as that is when the hearing on the injunction is scheduled.

Maybe calling him a coward is unfair but we are even for roller coaster ride of excitement i was on until i got to the last page

 

[Vicarious]

Letitia is still out there licking her chops at prosecution..

 

[Hickok]

It will get appealed, the second circuit is no friend of the 2A. Legal experts are saying the NYSRPA v. Bruen ruling will help dismantle the CCIA.

 

[Clancy]

It will get appealed, the second circuit is no friend of the 2A. Legal experts are saying the NYSRPA v. Bruen ruling will help dismantle the CCIA.

CCIA?

 

[cranberry]

CCIA?

the new concealed carry law .

 

[Vicarious]

CCIA?

You beleive those skunks named it concealed carry Improvement act? Soccer moms and the unaffected will gloss over it and say yep, great cool.

 

[Hickok]

CCIA?

The CCIA will be heading to the Supreme Court. I was watching the news and the legal expert said this TRO will get appealed and the only course for a final outcome will be heard by SCOTUS.
I am keeping positive that the NYSRPA v. Bruen decision must be used now by courts to rule on what can be kept by Judge Suddaby.

 

[Saltwater60]

It’s already been appealed. We are there and the second circuit has to uphold it. If they don’t I will be very surprised. I almost want them to deny it so we can take it to the Supreme Court because we will get more out of it than what Suddaby and the second circuit will give us.
I’m largely happy with what the TRO gave us, but I already have my full carry permit. I think it can certainly be improved upon and needs to go further especially for those who don’t have their permits.

 

[Joe357]

Agreed. If i was a scumbag NY official i would consider maybe dropping this case with the hopes they can keep what was left in place by the TRO. Pushing this too far through the appeals process will backfire for them.

 

[amombiemmanuel]

I think it's unfair to call him a coward. He's following standard legal procedure.

This is good news - a small and temporary victory, but a victory nonetheless. If the 2nd circuit doesn't quash the TRO (and I agree, that is a big "if"!), then we can once again carry... until October 20th, at least (/grumble). That's when the TRO would expire, as that is when the hearing on the injunction is scheduled.

hahah

 

[Saltwater60]

Agreed. If i was a scumbag NY official i would consider maybe dropping this case with the hopes they can keep what was left in place by the TRO. Pushing this too far through the appeals process will backfire for them.

The TRO inst the end of the line though and suddaby could rule further in our favor at subsequent court proceedings.

 

[Saltwater60]

TRO is done before it started. 2nd circuit screwed us.

 

[Lawful Carry]

Not surprising...
I heart New York. 🤬

 

[mikeeycohen]

Pretty good ruling today against CCIA in northern district.

 

[Vicarious]

A lot of win there.
Still could have been better, but its a start.

 

[mikeeycohen]

A lot of win there.
Still could have been better, but its a start.

You are right. Hopefully the narrowness of ruling discourages 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals from overturning it. Much of the narrowness stems from limits in 'standing' or damage to the plaintiffs, typical legal fodder for an appeal.

 

[Hickok]

You are right. Hopefully the narrowness of ruling discourages 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals from overturning it. Much of the narrowness stems from limits in 'standing' or damage to the plaintiffs, typical legal fodder for an appeal.

This is a win, only problem now is all those people who didn’t bother signing up for the 18 hour training to remove the restrictions are stuck waiting a few more months to get in a class. A lot of people thought the Judge was going to toss out the training and 4 character references and other portions of the CCIA.

 

[mikeeycohen]

This is a win, only problem now is all those people who didn’t bother signing up for the 18 hour training to remove the restrictions are stuck waiting a few more months to get in a class. A lot of people thought the Judge was going to toss out the training and 4 character references and other portions of the CCIA.

Interesting point, I registered a few weeks ago for a Jan class, on a bet that it would remain 'legal' or would anyhow be forced upon those of us in communist New York City. I have noticed more places advertising/starting to give the classes. There is another case Corbett v. Hochul in Southern District challenging the Training and it drills deeper and gives more evidence on the cost, etc. It also notes "the training requirement does not qualify (for a historical test exception) because it is not aimed at non-law-abiding individuals".