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Nice lil chart to have handy
 

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Wish I had a wall sized version on that.
I know right?! Thinkin bout picken up a new handgun so i said eh lemme gander at the chart lol
 

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I want a 577 tyranasaur!
That is "cool" but IMO a bit of a waste.
Like many in the same line, they start very strong but quickly loose steam...

why not a plentiful and simple 375 RUM good for anything walking on this planet?

http://www.barnesbullets.com/copper...df?PHPSESSID=1827884cd1bd166a487a5e2c28a5bda8

Real Guns - Remington's M700 XCR II meets the 375 Remington Ultra Mag Part II


Your Input Variables
Ballistic Coefficient0.555Velocity (ft/s)2775Weight (grains)300
Maximum Range (yds)1000Interval (yds)100Drag FunctionG1
Sight Height (inches)1.5Shooting Angle (degrees)0Zero Range (yds)200
Wind Speed (mph)10Wind Angle (degrees)90Altitude (ft)550
Pressure (hg)29.53Temperature (F)75Humidity (%)0.78
Ballistics Results - 375 RUM
RANGE(YARDS)VELOCITY(FPS)ENERGY(FT.-LB.)TRAJECTORY(IN)COME UP IN MOACOME UP IN MILSWIND DRIFT(IN)WIND DRIFT IN MOAWIND DRIFT IN MILS
Muzzle27755129-1.500000
100262045741.8-1.7-0.50.60.60.2
200247140680002.31.10.3
30023273607-7.52.40.75.31.70.5
40021873187-21.45.11.59.72.30.7
50020532806-42.68.12.415.630.9
60019232463-7211.53.323.13.71.1
70017982154-110.915.14.432.54.41.3
80016801880-160.519.25.643.95.21.5
90015681638-222.523.66.957.46.11.8
100014631426-298.728.58.373.272

Or if one is not going after elephants or cape buffalo in Africa the 358 UMT is good for anything and shoots flatter than the 300 win mag.

Shooting Illustrated | Barnes Bullets
WILDCAT THUNDER


Your Input Variables
Ballistic Coefficient0.446Velocity (ft/s)3029Weight (grains)250
Maximum Range (yds)1000Interval (yds)100Drag FunctionG1
Sight Height (inches)1.5Shooting Angle (degrees)0Zero Range (yds)100
Wind Speed (mph)0Wind Angle (degrees)90Altitude (ft)0
Pressure (hg)29.53Temperature (F)59Humidity (%)0.78
Ballistics Results - 358 UMT
RANGE(YARDS)VELOCITY(FPS)ENERGY(FT.-LB.)TRAJECTORY(IN)COME UP IN MOACOME UP IN MILSWIND DRIFT(IN)WIND DRIFT IN MOAWIND DRIFT IN MILS
Muzzle30295093-1.500000
10028154399000000
20026123786-2.91.40.4000
30024173243-10.93.51000
40022312762-24.95.91.7000
50020532338-45.88.82.5000
60018831968-75.1123.5000
70017231648-114.215.64.5000
80015741376-16519.75.7000
90014371147-229.924.47.1000
10001315960-311.729.88.7000

300gr and 250gr brutality with some decent ballistics.

Once you go above these bores it becomes impossible to show good ballistics and still be used in the standard long action.
On top these calibers retain energy better show deep penetration and sometimes wider wound channels.
So one can keep going up calibers and have more energy at the muzzle but not necessarily better results on the receiving
end.

There is also a 416 UMT based on the same case but I don't think it is necessary and then it becomes
much harder to find decent bullets at reasonable cost.
 

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That is "cool" but IMO a bit of a waste.
Like many in the same line, they start very strong but quickly loose steam...

why not a plentiful and simple 375 RUM good for anything walking on this planet?

http://www.barnesbullets.com/copper...df?PHPSESSID=1827884cd1bd166a487a5e2c28a5bda8

Real Guns - Remington's M700 XCR II meets the 375 Remington Ultra Mag Part II


Your Input Variables

Ballistic Coefficient0.555Velocity (ft/s)2775Weight (grains)300
Maximum Range (yds)1000Interval (yds)100Drag FunctionG1
Sight Height (inches)1.5Shooting Angle (degrees)0Zero Range (yds)200
Wind Speed (mph)10Wind Angle (degrees)90Altitude (ft)550
Pressure (hg)29.53Temperature (F)75Humidity (%)0.78
Ballistics Results - 375 RUM

RANGE(YARDS)VELOCITY(FPS)ENERGY(FT.-LB.)TRAJECTORY(IN)COME UP IN MOACOME UP IN MILSWIND DRIFT(IN)WIND DRIFT IN MOAWIND DRIFT IN MILS
Muzzle27755129-1.500000
100262045741.8-1.7-0.50.60.60.2
200247140680002.31.10.3
30023273607-7.52.40.75.31.70.5
40021873187-21.45.11.59.72.30.7
50020532806-42.68.12.415.630.9
60019232463-7211.53.323.13.71.1
70017982154-110.915.14.432.54.41.3
80016801880-160.519.25.643.95.21.5
90015681638-222.523.66.957.46.11.8
100014631426-298.728.58.373.272

Or if one is not going after elephants or cape buffalo in Africa the 358 UMT is good for anything and shoots flatter than the 300 win mag.

Shooting Illustrated | Barnes Bullets
WILDCAT THUNDER


Your Input Variables

Ballistic Coefficient0.446Velocity (ft/s)3029Weight (grains)250
Maximum Range (yds)1000Interval (yds)100Drag FunctionG1
Sight Height (inches)1.5Shooting Angle (degrees)0Zero Range (yds)100
Wind Speed (mph)0Wind Angle (degrees)90Altitude (ft)0
Pressure (hg)29.53Temperature (F)59Humidity (%)0.78
Ballistics Results - 358 UMT

RANGE(YARDS)VELOCITY(FPS)ENERGY(FT.-LB.)TRAJECTORY(IN)COME UP IN MOACOME UP IN MILSWIND DRIFT(IN)WIND DRIFT IN MOAWIND DRIFT IN MILS
Muzzle30295093-1.500000
10028154399000000
20026123786-2.91.40.4000
30024173243-10.93.51000
40022312762-24.95.91.7000
50020532338-45.88.82.5000
60018831968-75.1123.5000
70017231648-114.215.64.5000
80015741376-16519.75.7000
90014371147-229.924.47.1000
10001315960-311.729.88.7000

300gr and 250gr brutality with some decent ballistics.

Once you go above these bores it becomes impossible to show good ballistics and still be used in the standard long action.
On top these calibers retain energy better show deep penetration and sometimes wider wound channels.
So one can keep going up calibers and have more energy at the muzzle but not necessarily better results on the receiving
end.

There is also a 416 UMT based on the same case but I don't think it is necessary and then it becomes
much harder to find decent bullets at reasonable cost.
Ty muther ****in ranassaraus thats why. Same reason I carry a 45 sometimes, because, **** you, 45, kills your soul.
 

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We need to miniaturize and clone meketrefe. I'm thinking mounted to a plaque like Billy Bass but with a little LCD next to him to display ballistics charts on.
 

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I like your idea with the 375 Rum but 375 H&H has been doing it since 1912. :)

"When the .375 H&H Magnum was released in 1912 it was loaded with three bullet weights: a 235 gr (15.2 g) at 2,800 ft/s (850 m/s), 270 gr (17 g) at 2,650 ft/s (810 m/s)and a 300 gr (19 g) at 2,500 ft/s (760 m/s).[SUP][10][/SUP] However, today, with the availability of a wide range of powders, velocities gains of 150-200 ft/s (46-61 m/s) can be realized. Acceptable bullet weights for the .375 H&H Magnum range from 200 gr (13 g) to 380 gr (25 g). The lighter bullets, those weighting 210 gr (14 g) to 235 gr (15.2 g) are suitable for lighter plains game. Bullets weighting between 250 gr (16 g) to 285 gr (18.5 g) can be used on heavy bodied plains game. Bullets weighting 285 gr (18.5 g) to 300 gr (19 g) should be reserved for heavy dangerous game.

Today, a typical factory load such as Remington's R375M1 or Federal's ammunition will launch a 270 gr (17 g) spitzer bullet at 2,690 feet per second (820 m/s) with 4,337 ft·lbf (5,880 J) of energy at the muzzle. This load has approximately the same trajectory as the 180-grain (12 g) bullet from a .30-06 Springfield. However while the .30-06 generates only about 2,914 ft·lbf (3,951 J) compared with the .375 H&H. The 270 gr (17 g) spitzer bullet at .375 H&H velocities has a maximum point blank range (MPBR) of about 260 yd (240 m) when sighted in at about 220 yd (200 m).

The typical 300 gr (19 g) ammunition manufactured by Federal and Remington have a muzzle velocity of 2,530 feet per second (770 m/s) churning out 4,263 ft·lbf (5,780 J) of energy. The 300 gr (19 g) ammunition has a bullet trajectory similar to that of the .308 Winchester firing a 180 gr (12 g) bullet. The trajectory allows for a MPBR of about 245 yd (224 m) when zeroed in for 210 yd (190 m).

... At present the 235gain loadings are only available from Holland & Holland or Kynamco. Bullets in this weight range can be launched at velocities of 2,800-2,900 ft/s (850-880 m/s).

Hornady new Superformance line of cartridges provides a leap in performance to the .375 H&H cartridge. The Superformance line uses powders specifically blended for each cartridge. Hornady's 375 H&H 270 gr SP-RP Superformance ammunition fires a 270 gr (17 g) bullet at 2,800 ft/s (850 m/s) for while the 375 H&H 300 gr DGS Superformance fires a 300 gr (19 g) bullet at 2,670 ft/s (810 m/s) generating 4,699 ft·lbf (6,371 J) and 4,748 ft·lbf (6,437 J) of energy respectively."

I love my 375 H&H, but actually I'd love a 375 Rum too!
 

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Groovy..

Many remington factory loadings are loaded mild since it is understood those are rarely used in cape buffalo / hippos or elephant
and to avoid too much damage when used on the largest animals / bears found on this continent.
But they do have the swift A frame 300 grain at 2760fps that is more realistic in terms of the performance capbilties.
Ammo .375 RUM Remington 300-Grain Swift A-Frame PSP Bullet 2760 fps 20 Rounds PR375UM3

A prime example of the brutality and true reach of the .375 RUM is the double tap loaded with accubonds.
DoubleTap Ammunition

Your Input Variables

Ballistic Coefficient0.485Velocity (ft/s)2945Weight (grains)300
Maximum Range (yds)1000Interval (yds)100Drag FunctionG1
Sight Height (inches)1.5Shooting Angle (degrees)0Zero Range (yds)200
Wind Speed (mph)10Wind Angle (degrees)90Altitude (ft)550
Pressure (hg)29.53Temperature (F)75Humidity (%)0.78
Ballistics Results - 375 RUM Double Tap 300 grain accubond

RANGE(YARDS)VELOCITY(FPS)ENERGY(FT.-LB.)TRAJECTORY(IN)COME UP IN MOACOME UP IN MILSWIND DRIFT(IN)WIND DRIFT IN MOAWIND DRIFT IN MILS
Muzzle29455777-1.500000
100276250811.5-1.5-0.40.60.60.2
200258644550002.41.20.3
30024173892-6.72.10.65.61.80.5
40022543385-19.44.61.310.32.50.7
50020982931-397.42.216.73.20.9
60019482527-66.510.63.124.941.2
70018052169-103.114.14.135.14.81.4
80016691856-150.5185.247.65.71.7
90015431585-210.322.36.562.66.61.9
100014251353-284.827.27.980.37.72.2

The H&H and 375 ruger simply cannot get there but at these levels to be honest it doesn't matter because
no matter which one of them they are going to do a number on the receiving end.

I guess many folks like the idea of the extra power with affordable brass for reloading but also
the availability of inexpensive Remington 700 and savage 10/11 rifles.
I think they bring African Rifle power the working man can afford.

 

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We need to miniaturize and clone meketrefe. I'm thinking mounted to a plaque like Billy Bass but with a little LCD next to him to display ballistics charts on.
So you want a mini me and then ballistics chart demonstrations or just the ballistics math? LOL
Hold that target higher over your head!! lol.

 

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Groovy..
The H&H and 375 ruger simply cannot get there but at these levels to be honest it doesn't matter because
no matter which one of them they are going to do a number on the receiving end.
TRUE! I used the 300 grain Swift A frame in Africa in my 375 H&H and was very pleased with it.
 

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Groovy..

Many remington factory loadings are loaded mild since it is understood those are rarely used in cape buffalo / hippos or elephant
and to avoid too much damage when used on the largest animals / bears found on this continent.
But they do have the swift A frame 300 grain at 2760fps that is more realistic in terms of the performance capbilties.
Ammo .375 RUM Remington 300-Grain Swift A-Frame PSP Bullet 2760 fps 20 Rounds PR375UM3

A prime example of the brutality and true reach of the .375 RUM is the double tap loaded with accubonds.
DoubleTap Ammunition

Your Input Variables

Ballistic Coefficient0.485Velocity (ft/s)2945Weight (grains)300
Maximum Range (yds)1000Interval (yds)100Drag FunctionG1
Sight Height (inches)1.5Shooting Angle (degrees)0Zero Range (yds)200
Wind Speed (mph)10Wind Angle (degrees)90Altitude (ft)550
Pressure (hg)29.53Temperature (F)75Humidity (%)0.78
Ballistics Results - 375 RUM Double Tap 300 grain accubond

RANGE(YARDS)VELOCITY(FPS)ENERGY(FT.-LB.)TRAJECTORY(IN)COME UP IN MOACOME UP IN MILSWIND DRIFT(IN)WIND DRIFT IN MOAWIND DRIFT IN MILS
Muzzle29455777-1.500000
100276250811.5-1.5-0.40.60.60.2
200258644550002.41.20.3
30024173892-6.72.10.65.61.80.5
40022543385-19.44.61.310.32.50.7
50020982931-397.42.216.73.20.9
60019482527-66.510.63.124.941.2
70018052169-103.114.14.135.14.81.4
80016691856-150.5185.247.65.71.7
90015431585-210.322.36.562.66.61.9
100014251353-284.827.27.980.37.72.2

The H&H and 375 ruger simply cannot get there but at these levels to be honest it doesn't matter because
no matter which one of them they are going to do a number on the receiving end.

I guess many folks like the idea of the extra power with affordable brass for reloading but also
the availability of inexpensive Remington 700 and savage 10/11 rifles.
I think they bring African Rifle power the working man can afford.

Now go get the target...
 

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meketrefe - just do it! You won't regret it.
 
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