[Illwoon]

Back in Dec 2013/Jan 2014 I submitted my "carry conceal" for Albany County. Last month, I received a phone call from a very pleasant police officer telling me he was putting my forms on the judge's desk by the end of the day. This month (August) I received my letter in the mail with my scheduled meeting with Judge Richard Platkin mid September.

Here is some background on myself. I'm a 26 yr old female, Bachelors in Wildlife Science, active hunter and fisher, hiker/camper/kayaker, active member of a gun club, etc...I'm applying for DEC Officer, Forest Ranger, State Trooper and Albany PD for potential future jobs. Clean background, clean license, worked as an intern for the DCJS before.

In my pistol safety course, it was basically stated, "DO NOT PUT SELF DEFENSE" on your application or expect instant denial. I put the normal, "hunting, fishing, target shooting, collection, all other legal purposes."

I've never been before a judge in my life, so I have no clue what to expect. I don't know what the do's and don'ts are for when seeing a judge, what to say, what not to say. Any advice would be great!

Also, would I be nuts for arguing for a CCW, or do I just be grateful if the judge grants me anything, and try to apply again later?

 

[drsfmd]

Ask. Don't argue. They will arbitrarily deny the permit entirely if you push the issue.

 

[JVG]

meet with judges is common in Albany. Its more the norm. I met with my judge before I got mine. They just ask basic stuff, Why? How will you store firearms & ammo? They may ask about and traffic violations even ones no longer on and abstract (my judge asked as far back has 1999 in 2012) Platkin is kind of a hard ass just be polite and give only the info they ask nothing more, nothing less

 

[go4soda]

Firstly welcome to the forum. Stick around for a while.

While I am not from Albany county, I would cite as you have...

I'm applying for DEC Officer, Forest Ranger, State Trooper and Albany PD for potential future jobs.

Thoughts from others that have gone before this Judge?

 

[Degenret]

I know one of the judges was giving unrestricted last year, and it wasn't Platkin. Except for that judge, the others need a very compelling reason to do so. Take the restrictions for now, take some courses over the next year or two, then try to get them lifted. Or carry with restrictions, I hear a lot of people do.

 

[drsfmd]

While I am not from Albany county, I would cite as you have...

Planning to get a job is a woefully insufficient reason. Job offer in hand is a different story.

 

[go4soda]

I don't see where it would hurt; however, again, I don't live in the Albany area either.

 

[misunderestimated]

Judges can be pretty scary especially when your not used to being in front of them.

I would make sure I was in a colared shirt and definitely NO shorts and I would be in dress pants not jeans.

Never lean on his bench and I keep my hands down and folded in front.

Good Luck,

 

[1911shooter]

I was before the judge in Albany City Court last month. (if you live in Albany you go thru city court now ) and the whole thing took about 2 minutes . I was asked why I wanted the permit ,and if the information on my application was true and correct. That was it. I had my permit a week later. Restricted of course ,but in Albany they all are . While waiting my turn I witnessed the judge refuse a full carry permit to a LEO, saying that he failed to show just cause as to why he needed one.

 

[JVG]

Judges can be pretty scary especially when your not used to being in front of them.

I would make sure I was in a colared shirt and definitely NO shorts and I would be in dress pants not jeans.

Never lean on his bench and I keep my hands down and folded in front.

Good Luck,

When I met with the Judge to get mine it was not in a courtroom. It took place in the judges quarters in a meeting room. There is a judge, and assistant and a stenographer. Was there maybe 10 minutes. Get there early. They usually do meetings for permits one afternoon a week and its first come first serve for position in line when you check in with the judges secretary.

 

[Cerakoted]

I was before the judge in Albany City Court last month. (if you live in Albany you go thru city court now ) and the whole thing took about 2 minutes . I was asked why I wanted the permit ,and if the information on my application was true and correct. That was it. I had my permit a week later. Restricted of course ,but in Albany they all are . While waiting my turn I witnessed the judge refuse a full carry permit to a LEO, saying that he failed to show just cause as to why he needed one.[

Why would a leo need a full carry permit? HR218 or whatever...

 

[1911shooter]

They carry on their badge in Albany co .Once they leave the force they no longer have that privilege. Hence they need a permit just like the rest of us.

 

[NassauRidgeRunner]

Make sure you ask the judge for the Hiking/Camping amendment on there as well. Wouldn't hurt to ask..

 

[Illwoon]

Thanks everyone for the advice, and the support. Wish me luck for tomorrow! I'll be sure to add in hiking/camping if I haven't already.

Even if I end up with a restricted permit, maybe I can reapply at a later time for a full CC. However, is there anything you need to do after you get your license from the judge? Any other courses or paperwork you need to go through?