What does reported mean?
A-1157 Reported 5/3
Microstamping bill A-1157 has been Reported.
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looks like wheel gun sales are going to go up :shot:TITLE OF BILL : An act to amend the penal law, in relation to
requiring semiautomatic pistols manufactured or delivered to any
licensed dealer in this state to be capable of microstamping
ammunition
at least the Congressmorons realize that not every criminal will leave casings behind
When a subcommittee reads its recommendation to the rest of their http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_ordering_a_bill_reported_mean#house of CongressWhat does reported mean?
It means it will be sent to the Assembly floor for a vote.
It needs 3 readings before a vote, right?
Assembly will probably pass this one. Hope the senate doesn't have the votes.
Assembly will probably pass this one. Hope the senate doesn't have the votes.
Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification.
Time to stock up on 'pre~ban' semi automatics then I guess.
Good enough reason for me to finally get after that 1911 I've been lusting after anyway...
Interesting to note that they'll allow for the changing of a firing pin for safety or sporting reasons, but there's no clause for changing the barrel which has the chamber as part of its manufacture. (presumably the only two points at which such lamness could even begin to be attempted, unless some twit is going to try and make a microstamp extractor hook or ejector pin)
So if you're a competitor or avid shooter, be prepared for that felony charge when you have to replace that shot out or not as precise/style/material/type as you want for competition use barrel. Or anyone else for that matter actually.
Time to stock up on 'pre~ban' semi automatics then I guess.
Good enough reason for me to finally get after that 1911 I've been lusting after anyway...
Interesting to note that they'll allow for the changing of a firing pin for safety or sporting reasons, but there's no clause for changing the barrel which has the chamber as part of its manufacture. (presumably the only two points at which such lamness could even begin to be attempted, unless some twit is going to try and make a microstamp extractor hook or ejector pin)
So if you're a competitor or avid shooter, be prepared for that felony charge when you have to replace that shot out or not as precise/style/material/type as you want for competition use barrel. Or anyone else for that matter actually.
From what I read, the bolt and firing pin have to stamp the cartridge, not the chamber, so swapping a barrel wouldn't effect it.
They put a date to impose it, but then throw in "or until someone says they can manage to do it", just like CA.
Damn I hoped this would never see the light of day.... Time to make some phone calls!
They put a date to impose it, but then throw in "or until someone says they can manage to do it", just like CA.
Damn I hoped this would never see the light of day.... Time to make some phone calls!
Yes, it needs to go to "3rd Reading" before it gets voted on.
The bill says the stamp must be done on the cartridge in 2 places. It does not specify the firing pin be one of the devices which makes one of the markings.Interesting to note that they'll allow for the changing of a firing pin for safety or sporting reasons, but there's no clause for changing the barrel which has the chamber as part of its manufacture.
True, but the most obvious points to place a strike/stamp would be the tip of the firing pin and the chamber wall where the casing expands upon firing.
Bolt face I don't see hitting hard enough or creating a clean impression if it did, (not to mention the presence of markings there on the cartridge base already which would interfere with the stamping clarity), extractor pawl 'mabe' but to get the stamp into the slot of the extractor in a position where it wouldn't get distorted inside that little slot would be pretty difficult leaving the ejector as about the only other option, provided it was the 'spike' type rather than a spring loaded pin type.
Another annoyance is the part about a microstamp install shop doing them in lots of 1000.
I can already see delays, delays, delays as people wait for thier item to get from manufacturer to the stamp shop, then delay until they get a big enough inventory to make a run, then ship it all out to all sorts of different locations over the state.
I mean that couldn't add on more than a month or five to the time between initial order and payment until delivery.
Nothing likemaking a purchase as freaking tedious as they possibly can to keep the pesants from obtaining that which is thier right.
*severe sarcasm mode*
Hey, y'know, if they just serilized ammunition to begin with then made people show a permit or FOID card to purchase it, then log the weapon information at the time of ammunition sales they could forgo the whole microstamping thing all together.
Bolt face I don't see hitting hard enough or creating a clean impression if it did, (not to mention the presence of markings there on the cartridge base already which would interfere with the stamping clarity), extractor pawl 'mabe' but to get the stamp into the slot of the extractor in a position where it wouldn't get distorted inside that little slot would be pretty difficult leaving the ejector as about the only other option, provided it was the 'spike' type rather than a spring loaded pin type.
Another annoyance is the part about a microstamp install shop doing them in lots of 1000.
I can already see delays, delays, delays as people wait for thier item to get from manufacturer to the stamp shop, then delay until they get a big enough inventory to make a run, then ship it all out to all sorts of different locations over the state.
I mean that couldn't add on more than a month or five to the time between initial order and payment until delivery.
Nothing likemaking a purchase as freaking tedious as they possibly can to keep the pesants from obtaining that which is thier right.
*severe sarcasm mode*
Hey, y'know, if they just serilized ammunition to begin with then made people show a permit or FOID card to purchase it, then log the weapon information at the time of ammunition sales they could forgo the whole microstamping thing all together.
Careful what you joke about. Chucky Schemer has been pushing that for years..*severe sarcasm mode*
Hey, y'know, if they just serilized ammunition to begin with then made people show a permit or FOID card to purchase it, then log the weapon information at the time of ammunition sales they could forgo the whole microstamping thing all together.
Just a few questions about microstamping What if your spent brass is picked up at the range and left at a crime scene? Will steel cased ammo deface the stamp? will reloaded shell casings be weakened by repeated stamps to the case? Will it eventually be illegal to reload since the new stamp may hit the old stamp and render both unreadable?
The complete lack of intelligence in Albany is unmeasurable.
I would not worry about it guys, it will never happen. It may come close but this bill would never become law.
James
James
your real question is, will it ever work. The answer is no, it a humongous waste of money. But it's not their money, so waste awayJust a few questions about microstamping What if your spent brass is picked up at the range and left at a crime scene? Will steel cased ammo deface the stamp? will reloaded shell casings be weakened by repeated stamps to the case? Will it eventually be illegal to reload since the new stamp may hit the old stamp and render both unreadable?
sweet, I just had a great business idea. Shell swaps! I will collect brass, and swap it with other people for a nominal charge. HEH!
what great idea, now they will make swapping shells illegalsweet, I just had a great business idea. Shell swaps! I will collect brass, and swap it with other people for a nominal charge. HEH!
don't laugh....they'll probably use this as an excuse to ban reloading.what great idea, now they will make swapping shells illegal
I'm kinda curious as to what *they* are going to do about the 50 million guns all ready on the market that DON'T Micro-stamp
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