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22 plinker?
7.62 ?
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I am just getting into rifles, not looking to spend a bunch of cash yet.
22 plinker?
7.62 ?
A 10/22 is always a great first gun, you can keep it stock or mod the crap out of it.
then you can always step to an AR platform or a bolt gun if you like punching paper.
smooth is fast. slow is just slow.
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I started out in my teens with a Mossburg .22 single action. It was a great gun and very accurate. My next was a Winchester .22 Mag lever action. I loved that gun. It had more punch and fun to shoot. I used it primarily for hunting small game. I put a scope on it and could nail woodchucks easily.
From there (and many years later) I went to .223 Bushmaster AR-15. I wanted to have fun shooting paper. My son loves that gun......easy to shoot, cool looking, and fun. Very accurate right out of the box.
Get yourself a cheap WASR-10 AKM clone... it will shoot, it is simple to operate and care for and you can't break it.
second on the 10/22, great gun, reliable, tons of aftermarket parts, tons of used rifles out there for sale. Will last you a life time.
I also think a 10/22 would be a good first rifle. You can find them for around $200.
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I got my Ruger 10/22 for 199 bucks at Gander, and love it!! I had a hole plan to mod the hell out of it, but decided to build an AR first. So once the AR is finished, I will go back and add some toys to my plinker!
Arms: Ruger, Red River Tactical, Hi-Point
EDC: Benchmade, Fenix Tactical
On the other hand a S&W mp22 would be a good one too. Not only would it be good to get you started with but it would get you familiar with the layout of an AR style gun.
smooth is fast. slow is just slow.
"I am not planning on slowing down, I am just going to learn to shoot better." - Ben Stoeger
"He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know." - Abraham Lincoln
The 10/22 looks like a good buy.
Does anyone has experience with:
Kel-Tech 9mm rifle?
Savage 22LR rifles?
Question for you; What type of rifle shooting do you see yourself getting into? My suggestion is a quality bolt action CZ, Savage Mark IV are two examples. A bolt action will help you learn and understand marksmanship better IMO. 10/22 like mini 14's are fun, but the only rifles that interest me are accurate ones.
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The above is highly inaccurate/ inconsistent especially at 100 yards, heavy and the ammo is dirty and unreliable unless you spend big money on higher end stuff which defeats the purpose of plinking.Originally Posted by Sprout47
Get a 10/22 and be happy as stated previously: "the 10/22, great gun, reliable, tons of aftermarket parts, tons of used rifles out there for sale. Will last you a life time."
I've got easily 15K rounds through mine and its a tack driver. I have a cheap ass Tasco 3X9X40 scope (yes its overkill) and that gun is too much fun and way cheap to get and operate.
And for whatever reason, it shoots better when it's dirty than it does when its clean. Go figure.
the marlin .22 semi auto looks like a good deal and ive heard nothing but good things about them. its the only cheaper .22 semi auto ive seen with a bolt hold open. gander has them for $160ish but i think dicks has them cheaper along with a mail in rebate for $20. i nearly bought one, and i still might.
+1 on the 10/22. I'm just started modding mine recently to resemble an AR.
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A decent WASR will perform between 3-4 MOA and is not a bad rifle to begin on especially if the person wants to try to get into some minor smithing while they are at it. AK's in general are good hobbyist rifles. Also, since we are not living in the most free of states, I am willing to bet that a .22 will be one of the last weapons to get put on a ban list.
But if accuracy is a concern then get a Saiga, I can pull a solid +/- 2 MOA out of my 7.62 (able to hit 4" clays at 200 yds.) and about the same for the 5.45 and have seen better performance from people using .223 and .308 variants.
As far as the ammo, I am assuming you mean the WOLF/Barnaul/whatever other Russian Ammo is out there? Wolf is actually pretty clean running ammo. Firing some Yugoslavian 7.62 then yes, it is dirty ammo. But I have never had any reliability issues with any of the Russian mfr ammo. In this past year alone I have gone through at least 10k rounds and it has all been either Wolf or Russian/Bulgarian/Yugoslavian surplus and I haven't had a single malfunction of any type. I am curious (sincerely) what issues you have had with reliability from Russian ammo.
My money is on accuracy issues and dirty... The 10/22 is probably the best "hobbyist" rifle out there, my .02.
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Well if that is the case then I have never experienced dirty or accuracy issues from WOLF...
As far as the surplus ammo goes, the Russians stopped using corrosive ammo as of 1996, so just know what you are buying...
I had a 10/22 before (about 1989), pretty sure I can work on an AK or an AR more and not a jam-o-matic (unless my 10/22 was exceptionally ****ty).
I don't care though... don't buy the Saiga's or WASAR's, it will keep the cost down for me
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