So today I took a ride to a LGS, was looking for Ultramax 223 68 gr. ammo. I have bought it there before, but they were out and was told they didn't think they were getting the heavier grain anymore. So I figured i'd grab some mini-mags, neither of the guys behind the counter ever herd of CCI Mini-Mags before, 1 guy was nice and said I stumped him. He never herd of them but tried to suggest a few other things to fit my need, the other guy insisted there was no such ammo. So I came home and ordered 2 50 packs of the Ultramax and a 500 pack of Mini-Mags from Midway.