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    you don't need a canon for 1000 yards you need practice .I've shot and scored well with a 6mm br a 6 millimeter dasher and even as 65 creedmoor they all go 1000 yards easily .the main concern you have is a good quality barrel and good quality ammo ,good glass is also a concern

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    The .338 Lupa is pretty much the standard for long range shooting these days.....I heard of a new caliber up and coming,but I can't remember what it was now...


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    6BR norma is an excellent choice but there is another good one....

    6.5x47 lapua. Nothing else is needed.
    6.5mm 144grain has a ballistic coefficient G1 =. 640 super flat shooting.

    To match the speed and ballistic coefficient in 308 you need a 210gr VLD bullet and double+ the powder.
    To match the speed and ballistic coefficient in 338 you need a 250gr bullet and 2.5 times that much powder.

    None of those is double the grain bullet but require more than double the powder.

    6BR norma lapua and 6x47 lapua are kings int terms of efficiency, strength and consistency w/o going into the big
    magnums and all the implications of that for both the rifle and the shooter / accuracy.

    I am sure the creedmore is a good choice too but I doubt the consistency of lapua can be matched.


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    At 1000 yards its easy,just take any rifle and keep pulling the trigger and aiming higher till the target falls!Sorta like a shot-gun,sooner or later one has gotta hit...

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    If you’re actually serious about target shooting at 1,000-yards I’d suggest you first travel to Bodines, PA and spend some time hanging out with the guys shooting the game there. It may cost you a six-pack for some quality tail-gate advice on caliber, action and glass but you’ll be miles ahead when you’re finished.

    If your sole purpose is to poke holes in paper targets at the kilo-yard then there are many calibers that will meet your needs. I pulled the target for a guy shooting a souped-up .17-caliber at Bodines once (Boy was it tough finding those holes!)

    If you think that you might apply the same gear to some other endeavor then you’ll be narrowing your selection somewhat.

    If you take up field shooting at steel targets you’ll find that small caliber rigs might be superior ballistic performers but they don’t hit steel hard enough to score and when they miss they don’t move enough real estate to be easily spotted.

    Likewise if your activities include killing things you’ll need a caliber that will deliver sufficient energy to humanely harvest game or adequately reduce your enemy (penetrate cover, body armor, etc.).

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    It seems the OP wanted target. I agree if the purpose is hunting a super magnum is a must. Along with professional serious training and practice that is where the big dollars and time investment goes.
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    This:
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    This is a Bushmaster BA50. It is (NIB), (Pelican Case w/wheels, air tight w/depressurization valves). This is an upgraded BA50 with all the extras for fitment and accuracy.


    It is; long distance accuracy in a bolt-action .50 cal package!!

    Other features include:


    •MIL-STD-1913 Rail at 12 o’clock position on Vented Forend
    •Steel Bipod with Folding Legs
    •ErgoGrip Deluxe Tactical Pistol Grip and Foam Hard Case
    •Magpul PRS Adjustable Buttstock with LimbSaver ButtPad
    •Disassembles like an AR type rifle for cleaning
    •Forward Picatinny rail on the top

    •Lower Receiver is machined from T6-6061 Aluminum billet
    •Upper is machined from a T6-6061 extrusion with MIL-STD-1913 Rail
    •Manganese Phosphate finish on steel parts
    •Hard Anodized black finish on aluminum parts (Mil-Spec)
    •Bushmaster Barrel is Free Floated within Vented Forend
    •High Efficiency Recoil Reducing Brake
    •1 M.O.A. Accuracy with M33 Ball Ammunition
    *** Mounted Nikko Sterling 10x50x60 w/Parallax

    SPECIFICATIONS
    Caliber: .50 cal. Bolt Action BMG
    Magazine Capacity: 10 Rounds (2 supplied from mfg.)
    Overall Length: 58" [147.32cm] Barrel Length: 30" Rifling: 1 in-15"
    Weight w/o magazine: 30lbs [13.6kg]
    Weight of empty magazine: 1lb 7oz Weight of loaded magazine: 3lbs 14.5oz
    Mode of Operation: Bolt Action
    ***I PREFER FACE TO FACE but will ship to an FFL.


    It's available and if you are buying AND are serious contact me off board for pricing etc.
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    how about the original long range rifle 45/70 , 45/90, 45/110, or 50/90 although single shot they can be rooled to compete with todays cmpitition guns and are a gas to shoot andcan be just as accurate and are real thumpers out that far

    i push a 45/70 to my limit and i'm comfortable with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed K View Post
    how about the original long range rifle 45/70 , 45/90, 45/110, or 50/90 although single shot they can be rooled to compete with todays cmpitition guns and are a gas to shoot andcan be just as accurate and are real thumpers out that far

    i push a 45/70 to my limit and i'm comfortable with it
    Too much Quigley Down Under???

    Old Ordnance records show that when fired from a machine rest the .45-70 Springfield was expected to group all of its bullets inside a 4 inch circle at 100 yards, in a 11 inch circle at 300 yards, and inside a 27 inch circle at 500 yards. Though there is no direct relationship between mean radius and group size figures, the .45-70 delivered a mean radius of 18 to 19 inches which, would probably translate into a group size of between 55 and 70 inches at 1,000 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmussack View Post
    Too much Quigley Down Under???
    LOL !!! ...that is actually an entertaining movie.

    Quigley Down Under - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




    Ed K,
    did you ever see a typical 45/70 bullet? ...

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    Wow?

    I go off the grid for a few and still the argument of caliber lives on when I come back.

    Best all around caliber for LRP….. .338 mag Lapua or Norma.

    Why?

    Top tier ballistics and accuracy-check

    Punch holes in paper-check

    Hit steel targets-check (with enough momentum not energy)

    Shoot for blood or meat-check (with enough momentum for penetration again not energy) penetration is what stops a heart.

    Fun to drive-check…..With a big hell yes

    Cheap to feed-sorry sadly……NO


    Now if one wants to narrow there use and/or calculate efficiency yes there are other options, but they would not meet the all around utility of the .338.
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