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This woman is a real threat to gun owners!
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She's a Hater... but only of Americans.... you know, like our Military Recruiters being banned from Harvard.
Read her brief in US vs. Stevens when she was acting as Solicitor General. She was so far off the reservation on that one that even the Liberal justices ruled against her. That case was decided by an 8 to 1 ruling. The money quote was this one:
"Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection, depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
This is how she thinks. We should only have civil liberties if they can successfully be balanced against their "societal cost". Under this standard you could infringe on any part of the Bill of Rights, not just the 1st or 2nd amendments. The 2nd amendment could be deemed negative for society because criminals can get guns. The 1st amendment could be deemed negative for society because racists have free speech. The 4th and 5th amendments could likewise be negated because criminals use them as a shield to hamper criminal prosecution.
It really scares me to realize just how many people think like this. IMHO we should never submit any of our civil liberties to a cost benefit analysis. They do come with certain societal costs but that's the trade off you make for living in a free country. Why certain people just can't get this through their head is beyond me.
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“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” -Sir Winston Churchill
Do you believe that child pornography should be protected speech free from government intrusion? If not, why not? Alito agreed with Kagen.Originally Posted by javerial
That's a tough one. It seems to me that the real crime occurred when the child pornography was produced. We don't outlaw the possession of photos/videos depicting other crimes -- to the best of my knowledge it's perfectly legal to possess a video of someone being robbed and/or murdered. On the other hand, the child pornography marketplace can't exist without the victimization of other human beings.
To flip it around, do you think that the possession of "child porn" where children weren't involved in the production (i.e: novels, anime or videos with adult actors in the role of children) should be illegal?
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” -Sir Winston Churchill
well, that's where the balancing concept comes into play.
For example, we don't allow people to exercise the right of free speech during a court proceeding, even if they are not a participant in the proceeding, because the orderly transaction of judicial business outweighs the benefit of allowing people to express their views during court proceedings.
she obviously knows the libretards will only hear parts of her sentences ( key words or initials) and will predictably walk away thinking wow how deep shes as much a thinker as the great usurper.
She doesn't believe in the 1st amendment either....
This just gets better and better.
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” -Sir Winston Churchill
this nominee is becoming more and more someone I would not even consider voting for, and I can be viewed as a liberal.
I'm seriously starting to think Mr Obama might want to start looking around for another candidate.
AAS - can we stop with the 3rd grade 'libretard' comments? All that shows is that you are a narrow-minded bigot with no intelligent discourse and must resort to name calling.
Thank you
hmm.. I didn't realize the word libretard was so annoying, as far as the left is concerned, right up to the great usurper, I'm just a subject who clings to my guns and religion and being a member of some groups also makes me a potential terrorist. wanting our borders secured and illegals rounded up makes me a bigot. not agreeing with obama care or anything most democrats say, just makes me ignorant. watching liberals day after day belittling GWB and blaming him for everything under the sun, and maybe even sun spots, has really just pissed me off! If you are a lib and also a gun owner you are either conflicted or inflicted step away from the cool-aid.
I do apologize to all mentally retarded folks, I did not intend on belittling you.
OK, so you have either be all the way left or all the way right in your mind...got it.
I'm an Independent who mainly leans left, yet I own many guns and am a fierce proponent for Gun Rights. I feel no conflict at all. What you are doing is stereotyping people based on political alignment. I also know of many religious or gun loving Democrats as well, again no conflict. Did I mention I'm also a lifetime NRA member?
To be fair, GWB put himself in position to be ridiculed and blamed for a lot of problems. Like the handling of the "War on Terrorism" when we invaded a country that at the time had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks in America.
Anyway...you know what happens when you make assumptions...
Oh, and "Cool-aid" is spelled "Kool-Aid".
/rant.
Back to topic. She is scary to have on SCOTUS but, still doesn't matter. The court will still maintain a right-lean. It will just go from 6 Republic appointed justices to 5. Still a majority.
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Liberal Agenda or Communist Agenda?
The word "Liberal" originally described honorable and principled men who held to a philosophy of government that advocated Constitutional Republicanism. Constitutional Republicanism is a type of government almost unknown to most of the world. America was originally a Constitutional Republic. A Constitutional Republic defined is characterized by a very small government with limits on its powers of taxation and whose other powers are strictly limited by rigorously enforced Constitutional edicts. The honorable old Liberals of the 19th century would certainly not recognize the "liberals" of today. Modern Liberals promote, advocate, and enforce the centralization of all political power into an all powerful central government.
Some thoughts about modern liberals:
- At the most basic level, the Liberal is anti-God. The Liberal attempts to use government to eliminate all moral consequences for immoral behavior. The Liberal imagines that freedom from moral consequence can be secured by a collectivist, totalitarian state.
- Liberals use moralistic platitudes and catchy phrases like "social justice" and "The Brotherhood of Man" to appeal to the naive masses who are duped into believing that the ultimate goals of Liberals are genuinely good..
- The fundamental power struggle of Liberals may be classified as the individual versus the collective. The Liberal supports the collective in every contest against the individual. Liberals hate Individualism because it demands moral responsibility. Liberals support collectivism because they hope to eliminate the need for moral responsibility.
- The U.S. Constitution and specifically the support for rugged individualism which is evident in the Bill of Rights, is the enemy of the Liberal. The Liberal despises the United States because it is the premier protector and promoter of individualism in the world.
- In the mind of a Liberal, all institutions and concerns schools, environment, courts, etc. - serve no relevant purpose other than the promotion of collectivism.
- To a Liberal, abortion becomes necessary to guarantee sexual freedom and eliminate moral consequence.
- Any religion or religious person who believes or teaches that there are moral consequences for sin, is the enemy of Liberalism and must be oppressed. Thus for the collectivist Liberal bent on imposing socialism upon a nation, Christianity is the number one enemy above all other enemies. Christianity must be eliminated..
- Strong families are one of the greatest threats to the final goals of Liberalism. The total disintegration of the American family in recent decades among some ethnic communities has occurred as a direct result of the design and intention of Liberals.
- Private ownership of guns is the single greatest symbol of individual power, and therefore is despised by Liberals.
- The Liberal despises national sovereignty. Why? Because the best protection of individual freedoms is found in small decentralized governments.
- The Liberal promotes the growth of multi-national and international governments such as the European Union and the United Nations because these organizations advance the cause of socialism and seek to destroy the very individualism that is best protected by sovereign states.
- The Liberal fears any hint of individualism in any part of the world, and is obsessed with the centralized control of all human activity and thought. Thus the Liberal constantly seeks total control over all forms of media.
- "Multi-culturalism" is the liberal code word for a single, oppressive, collectivist culture.
- Liberals speak often of tolerance, but they only tolerate Liberals and Liberal ideas.
- The Liberal seeks to criminalize any speech that promotes morality or individualism as "hate speech." Thus we see Liberal Judges and Liberal Courts outlawing the Bible and gutting the free speech provisions of the first amendment of the constitution. Liberal Judges are now declaring that the Bible's proscriptions against homosexuality are illegal "hate speech" and scripture is now in the process of being outlawed from any appearance in public discourse or the public square.
- The Liberal's only method of debate is to appeal to the emotions of uneducated and illogical persons. Liberals seek to insult and discredit anyone who dares to disagree with them, especially in the college classroom. Why? Because the facts of logic and history do not support the agenda they are seeking to advance.
- When possible, Liberals oppress anyone who questions their beliefs.
- Liberals despise all innocence - especially the innocence of a child. Thus Hollywood Liberals seek to steal the innocence of our children as early as possible and the public schools assist them in this goal.
- Liberals seek to sexualize our children, eliminate age of consent laws and promote the normalization of pedophilia, all in the pursuit of sexual freedom.
- The Liberal typically chooses a career in a field that produces nothing of value. A Liberal will look for employment in field such as public education, an employee of local, county, state or federal government, an "activist," a lawyer, or a bureaucrat in a tax free foundation or an NGO devoted to advancing Liberal goals, etc.
- Liberal do-good programs enrich Liberals and do little to actually help the poor.
- Liberals are not obsessed with sex, but with promiscuity. Promoting promiscuity among the masses is the primary mission of the Liberals who control the Hollywood, Television and print media monopoly. Why? Because Liberals know that the twin pillars that support conservatism are family values and faith in God. By promoting promiscuity Liberals know that they are simultaneously attacking both of the main support pillars of rugged individualism.
- Liberals say that they despise marriage and family because they are "patriarchal institutions" that oppress women and children. But the real reason they despise marriage and family values is because these institutions oppose, disapprove and limit promiscuity thus undermining one of the principal supports for Liberalism.
- Liberals seek to control public schools, and force all children into them, in order to foster promiscuity and instill collectivist ideology into the minds and hearts of our children.
- Liberals are obsessed with demonstrating their putative "moral superiority." Thus even though they live their lives without really helping anyone, the political activism they engage in is dedicated to convincing themselves that they are truly good people. Liberals are driven by the need to validate the unspoken assertion that "I care more than you do," which is ironic in the extreme since none of the government programs liberals have designed can be shown to have an overall positive influence in our society.
- Whenever a Liberal expresses concern "for the children," invariably they are using and targeting children to expand their own power, promote promiscuity, advance collectivism and enlarge their personal income at the expense of the taxpayer.
- Liberals are elitists who exempt themselves from the oppressive rules they impose on the general population.
- Liberals howl if a homosexual transvestite or convicted felon is even slightly offended, but they openly bash Christians.
- Liberals claim to be against violence, but make excuses for Liberals like Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Castro who murder and torture political dissidents. Liberals claim to be against violence, but they seek to disarm individuals and render them powerless before the thugs, thieves and murderer's who rule the inner cities.
- Liberals have enormous compassion for criminal predators, but little for the victims.
- In the Liberal world, all problems stem from individualism, and all solutions are collective.
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Was that meant to be a serious response of some sort?
@TwoGunWilly
At least to try and format cut and paste so it looks right.
*bzzz* no. In fact I know many, many Christian Liberals. Most true Christians are liberals at heart because they actually follow the word of God rather than just talk about what everyone else is doing wrong. Love thy Neighbor, help those who need help whether they be sick or needy, etc. etc. etc. Most of those to the left of the political spectrum are for social programs that actually help people, and aren't old money grubbing misers that can't let go of a few more dollars for taxes. Love thy neighbor, no matter what their color, creed, or whatever choices they make. So this covers, immigration, abortion, gays and lesbians.Any religion or religious person who believes or teaches that there are moral consequences for sin, is the enemy of Liberalism and must be oppressed. Thus for the collectivist Liberal bent on imposing socialism upon a nation, Christianity is the number one enemy above all other enemies. Christianity must be eliminated..
Yet all I have seen recently from the "religious " right is nothing but pure hate towards gays, uncaring for young pregnant mothers, and hypocracy (like this:That's realll Christian attitude...On his Christian Broadcasting Network show yesterday, Rev. Pat Robertson said that the nation of Haiti has been devastated by a large earthquake because its people "made a pact with the devil."
"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," Robertson said. "They were under the heel of the French ... and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you'll get us free from the French.'"
"True story," he continued. "And the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' Ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another."
Really? Cite your sources.Liberals seek to sexualize our children, eliminate age of consent laws and promote the normalization of pedophilia, all in the pursuit of sexual freedom.
Wow. I can't even believe this one. Especially the line about work in public education. This is where just under 90% of all kids in America are taught. This is an extremely important field, and produces one of the most valuable resources, if not most valuable resources to exist. Knowledge, social structure, etc. etc. An employee of the government. So everyone that works in government, including GWB when he was there is a liberal? Brilliant argument. They are also scientists, artists, union workers, non-union workers. Political ideology does not direct employment (for either side).The Liberal typically chooses a career in a field that produces nothing of value. A Liberal will look for employment in field such as public education, an employee of local, county, state or federal government, an "activist," a lawyer, or a bureaucrat in a tax free foundation or an NGO devoted to advancing Liberal goals, etc.
Actually I believe it is the liberal code word for celebrating other cultures and sharing them with everyone. You can choose to partake or not. Mutli-Culturalism is a word when said by a conservative with disdain, bigotry and loutish, snooty behavior. As to immigration well, that I'm sort of in the middle. We need to do more, but we can't build a f-in fence. We need tighter controls on benefit programs. But hicks out with rifles just begging to shoot a Mexican illegal is ... well .. morally wrong."Multi-culturalism" is the liberal code word for a single, oppressive, collectivist culture.
That's about all I even want to tackle, but it's enough for now.
I just copied the page no cut and paste. I just liked the article and thought I would share with the class.
the report says:
And National Review has learned that in 1996, Kagan apparently tied the NRA to the KKK — yes, the KKK — while debating the Clinton administration’s position on a bill.
It has the name of administration colleague Fran Allegra at the top, and lists two “Bad guy orgs” that might be covered — the NRA and the KKK.
Come on. How can we have a rational discussion about a supreme court nominee with such nonsense being tossed around and regurgitated?
If someone asked me what I like to do in bed under the covers i might say 'fart and have sex with my wife." That doesn't mean I'm comparing sex with my wife to farting.
The problem with nonsense is that it is all too common.
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