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    Default Cobis going bye bye

    Funding for COBIS will not be included in this year's state budget, and unless Shelly finds a way to get 4 million, it's gone.

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    I would say "duplicate thread" but last thread it wasn't "official". Is it now official?
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    So no more need of a spent casing?
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    Maybe I can talk them into giving me all the casings for my brass collection?
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    If you buy enough guns then that brass will add up!

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    They'll prolly come up with something saying it'll cost 12 mil to dismantle and dispose of the system, thus making it cheaper to keep it til the next govorner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgamer138 View Post
    I would say "duplicate thread" but last thread it wasn't "official". Is it now official?
    I heard it from my State Sen yesterday. Of course he's probably looking to take credit for something that's been in the works for awhile. He stated "we repealed Cobis"....well not really, it's being defunded, a bit of a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DROCK View Post
    So no more need of a spent casing?
    no.......................

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    Don't worry, the jamokes in Albany will just find something equally as useless and stupid to replace it with in no time.
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    When would this go into effect, if it makes it through?

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    It would be one less thing to worry about when buying online
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamoColton View Post
    When would this go into effect, if it makes it through?
    Since it's a budgetary issue, probably the start of the State's fiscal year.....June? July?

    Should make it easier to "import" guns into NY State, since many distributors will not ship guns here because of the fired case thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladder13 View Post
    Since it's a budgetary issue, probably the start of the State's fiscal year.....June? July?

    Should make it easier to "import" guns into NY State, since many distributors will not ship guns here because of the fired case thing.
    The start of the fiscal year is April 1st. Whether or not that's when this would take effect, I don't know.

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    Getting rid of any gun laws in NY is a reason to celebrate.

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    So in Bloomberg's view: "We are getting rid of an infinitely valuable law enforcement tool used to solve countless homicides over the years it was in place. This is a drastic loss for the safety of the community and I will fight to get it re-instated with all my power so our citizens can sleep soundly at night."


    Now, he never said that, but doesn't that sound like a believable quote!?
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    You know of all the gun laws to get rid of I think that the spent casing thing was actually kind of a good idea to have, but magazines over 10 rounds? OMG no way that will make more crime. When are they getting rid of that bull****? Heck even if it came off the books for a year I'd be happy because then once it gets resigned into law "pre-ban" would be anything made before 2012 :-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by DystruktoBoi1 View Post
    You know of all the gun laws to get rid of I think that the spent casing thing was actually kind of a good idea to have, but magazines over 10 rounds? OMG no way that will make more crime. When are they getting rid of that bull****? Heck even if it came off the books for a year I'd be happy because then once it gets resigned into law "pre-ban" would be anything made before 2012 :-P
    I agree with you completely. I think the reason why they are willing to get rid of COBIS is because it is easily proven that it is a waste of money and has done nothing. The magazine capacity thing can be argued because there is not way to determine its effect on crime either way.

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    It's weird, 30 round mags would make it harder to conceal the firearm, so we won't be able to commit as many crimes because we're all criminals!


    One thing I hate is when you look at handguns and they say "this thing holds 19 rounds!" as one of the selling points. In NY, we need it to say "comes with pu$$y low capacity 10 round magazines!"
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    Sorry for being off topic but the funny thing is that when the 2nd amendment was written the citizens were able to have "military grade" firearms and we aren't. We can't even have standard capacity magazines by definition and are forced to have sub standard magazines to stay within compliance of the law.

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    Remember that "military grade" weapons back then were flintlock muskets, you can't take one of them into a room with a drum magazine and mow down 50 people and take off before anyone even realizes what is going on, but with modern weapons you certainly can, the fully automatic thing I really don't care about, but I hate the mag capacity laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cossey View Post
    Don't worry, the jamokes in Albany will just find something equally as useless and stupid to replace it with in no time.
    they are all ready working on that, it's called Micro-stamping.............Freaking idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by DystruktoBoi1 View Post
    Remember that "military grade" weapons back then were flintlock muskets, you can't take one of them into a room with a drum magazine and mow down 50 people and take off before anyone even realizes what is going on, but with modern weapons you certainly can, the fully automatic thing I really don't care about, but I hate the mag capacity laws.
    Yes and our founding fathers "protected our right" to keep the "military grade" weapons at the time so we could fight back again if need be. Granted I dont want to spend the money on our military grade stuff now and dont want a fully automatic weapon because of the cost of ammo lol but I think its over looked that when the constitution was written they didnt say people could only have the old firearms and not the military ones of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcveteran View Post
    Yes and our founding fathers "protected our right" to keep the "military grade" weapons at the time so we could fight back again if need be. Granted I dont want to spend the money on our military grade stuff now and dont want a fully automatic weapon because of the cost of ammo lol but I think its over looked that when the constitution was written they didnt say people could only have the old firearms and not the military ones of the time.

    Well we can pretty much get military quality firearms, I dare say that within 50-75 yards my SAR-1 AK is going to preform about as good as an M4 carbine, and I'm willing to bet you own an AR or 2 that could or maybe even IS right on par with the military versions minus the burst fire mode. Heck some of the things we can get surpass military rifles by a long shot, take some of those .338 lapua rifles for example, they hit like a 50 BMG and they can reach out the same distance with a smaller caliber round, amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DystruktoBoi1 View Post
    Remember that "military grade" weapons back then were flintlock muskets, you can't take one of them into a room with a drum magazine and mow down 50 people and take off before anyone even realizes what is going on, but with modern weapons you certainly can, the fully automatic thing I really don't care about, but I hate the mag capacity laws.
    If I was in the room with 50 people, and someone came in with a 50 round mag, I'd PRAY that he was using full-auto. The full-auto scare is a joke. If he was using semi-and picking people off, that sucks. Not affected one iota by a nonsense "Large Cap Mag Ban." as it takes LESS than .5 seconds to change them. That's something Brady always harps. "In AZ the shooter emptied a 33 round mag in X seconds. ban high cap mags." What they don't say is that "Had the high-cap mag ban been in place the damage would have been the same due to pre-bans and the fact that it takes no time to switch mags."
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    Yes but what makes a military grade weapon is not only the firearm itself but the magazines. Federal law for the most part is within the constitution in regards to firearms laws. I dont understand why constitutional rights can have laws made against them by the states.
    First off I want to say I dont really think personally we should have all the stuff the military has. Lets think about this though. The 2nd amendment was written in a time when we just fought against "the man" for our independence. The only thing holding us up back then was cost really of the "good weapons". I can be wrong but when the British wanted to seize our weapons and tell us we couldnt own them when we fought back? By slowly disarming us aren't the people put at a great disadvantage?
    All that said regardless of our government or what it does I think any violent action by the people would be a very bad thing.
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