Gillibrand chosen as Clinton replacement

[Machinator]

And she's pro-gun!

[javerial]

Governor Paterson has made a number of moves recently that have alienated the downstate/liberal dems. This is one more that can be added to the list. They are already howling about it and he hasn't even made the official announcement yet.

If she is indeed the choice (I'll believe it when I see the press conference) expect to see a primary challenge from downstate in 2010. Gillibrand will have two years to establish herself and already has a track record of being able to raise money so I don't think it's going to be as easy for them to knock her off as they seem to think. Still, she's going to need a lot of support from Upstate.

Kudos to Paterson if this turns out to be true.

[darkvibe]

I just heard this too. I hope it's true. Getting rid of Hillary is the only good thing to happen this election season so far.

[Machinator]

I saw the announcement on CNN. It better be true.

Getting Hillary out of the state and hopefully out of the country on foreign policy tours is wonderful.

[darkvibe]

Now she can go screw up the whole county instead of just NY. Our diplomat to the world is a Jr. senator with little experience. Sounds like a great idea.

[Enginetech88]

It is official now. I think she has good ideas, and she should do pretty good. Josh

[darkvibe]

She's the best pick from a 2A standpoint but some of her ideas on other stuff are dumb. High speed rail in upstate and western ny? As soon as someone donates trillions of dollars for new tracks to handle it we're all set.

[Rich]

A high speed rail would be great if it were to run from NYC to Western NY.

[darkvibe]

Originally Posted by Rich

A high speed rail would be great if it were to run from NYC to Western NY.

Except the rails will not handle it so before it could happen we need money to pay for the infrastructure. I pay enough taxes without dumb ideas like that. If a private business wanted to do it, go for it. We already pay amtrak billions of dollars to stay afloat. If you ask me... let it die.

[winemaker]

This is good news. For a change. Let's not get too excited about her pro-2A stance as she will no doubt get lots of pressure from her new important constituency--NYC and her supporter little Chuckie Schumer. But we were never going to get a true 100% conservative in a million years, so this pick is about as good as any conservative/gunowner could ever hope for. Gillibrand replacing Clinton/Cuomo/Kennedy is a huge win.

I'll say this about Patterson--he keeps things interesting.

[darkvibe]

Schumer brought up guns in the press conference. He said she has no large cities in her district now but once she sees the gun situation in the cities she will learn why his opinion is right and hers is wrong. (my words, not his)

[javerial]

Originally Posted by darkvibe

She's the best pick from a 2A standpoint but some of her ideas on other stuff are dumb. High speed rail in upstate and western ny? As soon as someone donates trillions of dollars for new tracks to handle it we're all set.

Hey, I'll take someone who is pro 2nd amendment and idiotic on other issues over someone who just idiotic on all issues. Can you name a Republican in NYS that could win this seat against a well funded downstate liberal? The GOP bench in NYS is empty. They've had their clocks cleaned in every statewide election since Pataki left. They can't even win Upstate anymore. With that in mind, would Cuomo or (god help us) Caroline Kennedy be any better?

Besides all that, I'm also happy to finally see Upstate get a voice. We are 42% of the population and have had 0% of the statewide representation for as long as I can remember. All things considered I see a lot here to be happy about.

[darkvibe]

Here's an article about her.

Don't read it if you're going to get pissed off reading something written by an idiot

http://www.thealbanyproject.com/show...o?diaryId=5576

[javerial]

But this is an issue that is very different in rural and urban areas. In rural areas, guns aren't associated with violence. Guns are associated with sport. I hail from a very rural county where hunting is a family event for some. I can remember only two murders that occurred involving a gun during my lifetime here. So in the rural areas of this state, guns aren't used for violent purposes. Guns are used for hunting and for sport.

In urban (and even suburban) areas, the issue is much different. I live an hour away from Buffalo and Rochester - two cities that have had their share of homicides involving the use of a gun. In urban areas, guns aren't associated with hunting. Instead, guns are associated with violence.

Isn't it interesting why they never stop and ask why in rural areas violence isn't more of a problem? Interesting how in Vermont (any non-felon can buy a gun and carry it with no permit or licensing process) gun violence is practically non-existent whereas in New York City (you can't buy/carry a handgun unless you made the right political contribution) it's rampant. Perhaps correlation does not imply causation and the big cities have other underlying problems they need to address?

[ddan24]

Looks like she took Monica's place Still too close to the Clinton's if you ask me... but it looks like she doesn't mind getting her knees a little dirty when Hillary is out of town.

[Machinator]

She's definitely not bad for 42. ;D

[tinker]

In all honesty, she is much better than i figured we would get.

I think the author, Robert Harding, should look at the number of
legally registered firearms in urban areas such as Rochester before he saya that every
gun in cities are used in violent crimes. He claims that because he lives in some dumpy town between here and Buffalo he knows how the world spins in "big" cities. Sorry for being rude, but he doesn't know shit.
I've lived in Rochester all my life, and hung out in the city since I was in my early teens. I have only known one person who fell victim to a gun crime, and he was a gang member at that time. Not really an innocent law abiding citizen.
I dont like people speaking for me like I'm innept. (sorry for the rant)

[darkvibe]

Originally Posted by tinker

In all honesty, she is much better than i figured we would get. 

I think the author, Robert Harding, should look at the number of
legally registered firearms in urban areas such as Rochester before he saya that every
gun in cities are used in violent crimes. He claims that because he lives in some dumpy town between here and Buffalo he knows how the world spins in "big" cities. Sorry for being rude, but he doesn't know shit.
I've lived in Rochester all my life, and hung out in the city since I was in my early teens. I have only known one person who fell victim to a gun crime, and he was a gang member at that time. Not really an innocent law abiding citizen.
I dont like people speaking for me like I'm innept. (sorry for the rant)

I'd like him to point out where the constitution was changed to say "the right to hunt with guns shall not be infringed" because I must have missed that.

[wombat13]

Originally Posted by winemaker

This is good news. For a change. Let's not get too excited about her pro-2A stance as she will no doubt get lots of pressure from her new important constituency--NYC and her supporter little Chuckie Schumer. But we were never going to get a true 100% conservative in a million years, so this pick is about as good as any conservative/gunowner could ever hope for. Gillibrand replacing Clinton/Cuomo/Kennedy is a huge win.

I'll say this about Patterson--he keeps things interesting.

Yes, the political re-education of Gillibrand has begun and she is already jettisoning her non-liberal positions - illiegal-mmigration is first (see the NY Times link below) and 2A will follow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/ny...er=rss&emc=rss

I am as conservative as they come, but I had been considering changing my registration to D to vote for Gillibrand in her primary in two years. Now I see that I won't have to worry about that.

[RalphXL]

“She understands she no longer represents a small Congressional district upstate,”

She should say what she means, gun toting redneck republican hillbillies.

RalphXL

[javerial]

Originally Posted by wombat13

Yes, the political re-education of Gillibrand has begun and she is already jettisoning her non-liberal positions - illiegal-mmigration is first (see the NY Times link below) and 2A will follow.

Eh, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for the time being. I'll probably wind up disappointed (never been anything but when it comes to politicians) but let's at least see how she votes on 2A issues in the Senate before we give up hope on her. In the end the voting record is all that really matters anyway. I place more stock in it than I do in party affiliation, public statements or campaign promises.

[FatalWounds]

http://obamadeception.net/

Resistance is not Futile!

[darkvibe]

I don't know how convincing you can be when you open with the presidents jokes from the media dinner thing.

[RalphXL]

Originally Posted by FatalWounds

http://obamadeception.net/

Resistance is not Futile!

I am no fan of Obama but, what does your link have to do with Gillibrand?

RalphXL

[Machinator]

That movie seems like satire, its so bad.