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About LinkBacksTo end the thread, we wont be huddling in our militia group singing kumbaya in the middle of the woods anytime soon. If the government does indeed induce permanent martial law for now reason...militias WILL be formed. The end.
To end the thread, we wont be huddling in our militia group singing kumbaya in the middle of the woods anytime soon. If the government does indeed induce permanent martial law for now reason...militias WILL be formed. The end.
I hate to be a D**k but..... this would not be legal because their is no exemption for militias in NYS law and I am sure NYS would have to sign off on this "militia". Not to mention what kind of Militia is it if you can say you dont want to fight when called upon? I think that their is no legal way to do what this thread is talking about and its more rediculous then threads on zombie threads lol (not offense to Zombie threads).Originally Posted by bjeab
What did you want to gain by forming this militia?
I think when you sign on the dotted line to join this militia, your new member gift is a shiny new pair of silver cuffs from a local law enforement agency and maybe a free sodomy while in the clink.
I cant believe this... redonkulous!
Lol. its true. what kind of militia is it if the sole purpose is to carry unrestricted everywhere AND you dont have to do anything if you dont want to is the state calls for your help? Atleast zombie threads are somewhat relevant because A. you dont know what new virus may pop up and what it might cause a person to do lol and B. it usually contains some useful information for the more likely event of gangs of people attacking after a solar storm which wipes out all electronics.
Malitias are not goverment sanctioned.nys does not have to sighn off on it. Also not illegal. The people who set up our country believed in them. Wherepart of them. Rember where you came from. Loving this country is also loving where we came from and how we got here.
Rember to look at both sides. Bashing me for offering a talking point doesnt mean its a bad idea. Maybe it is or isnt. But discussion of the actual idea.has yet to happen. I brought forth the idea to debate with peers. Consider it a mental exercise to stimulate your brain
FEDERAL law says we have the right to do it wouldnt that trump state law usmc veteran. As for purpose to have people who maitain the right eight to own and be trained with the use of weapons for the purpose of civil defence. Part of freedom is choice. The tree of life gave that to us. Having the freedom to join a group would also come with ability to choose your actions. Id love more good points and debate points like usmc veteran
Tench Coxe, a prominent American political economist of the day (1755–1824) who attended the earlier constitutional convention in Annapolis, explained (in the Pennsylvania Federal Gazette on June 18, 1789) the founders' definition of who the militia was intended to be and their inherent distrust of standing armies under the direct control of 'civil rulers' when he wrote:The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ...the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people. The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them. Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.
for the love of god... What is the idea?
Can you clearly explain what you want to do and what you are trying to accomplish?
Please proof read and use sentences.
Sheeesh Ray, come on, I thought this was as clear as mud...
"Can we have membership cards and hats?
Official mission statement. To always be prepared for a request, then to decide as individule our actions ( oky give ideas)"
Now as far as the proof reading and use of sentences, ummmm, well, we may have to work on that a bit!
OK, I'm going back to speechless...
This is NYS and you will not get any benefits from starting a Militia. I mean you will not be able to carry firearms with you everywhere. You can still have your hats and membership cards I guess lol. You have to be very careful if you wanted to start a Militia as well. I found this law.
6. (a) Any person who assembles or conspires to assemble with one or more persons as a paramilitary organization and has knowledge of its purpose is guilty of a class C felony when he, with one or more other members of such organization, practices with a military weapon in order to further the purpose of such organization. (b) As used in this subdivision: (i) "paramilitary organization" means an organization of two or more persons who engage or conspire to engage in military instruction or training in warfare or sabotage for the purpose of unlawfully causing physical injury to any person or unlawfully damaging the property of any person.
Found here Laws of New York
In same law it basically says to parade with firearms in public you have to be authorized by law to do so.
That law just reads to me dont do bad dont do it to be bad haha
If your doing it for the purpose of doing harm to others then yes that equals bad
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What are you doing it for the purpose of?
The only purpose of a militia is if the govenment enacts tyranny amongst its people. No militia is needed unless we are thrusted into another civil war.
attempt at a loophole in the law, could you imagine the insanity of legal battles one would have if it was tried?
Its to make you think i didnt say lets do it. Mors a brain teaser would it be a way to ensure portection of rights. And the purpose of a militia is not stricktly to keep goverment in check. The reserves and national guard are both malitias
MAKE US THINK ABOUT WHAT? Your posts are jumbles of words and sentence fragments. I don't care what other people think you are talking about, I want to hear you present a clear idea, thought, statement.... anything.
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The only purpose of a militia is if the govenment enacts tyranny amongst its people. No militia is needed unless we are thrusted into another civil war.
This isn't really true Public Enemy, Militia's were to be created to keep an idle military at bay, I believe the numbers were max 25% of the general population and/or a certain % of the total armeed forces. Militia's were essentially created to be able to defend against a military controlled by the government. Yes, they will do what the commander in Chief says. We, as citizens have the option to not do as he says. Not condoning that, just saying. we have the option and also will see the consequences. Stop picking on the kid who started this thread. I chimed in trying to be a bit funny but yes, a militia could be something this state may need someday to save our a$$es. Don't take yourselves too seriously. Some of you sound like Delta bravo's.
Everyone here does know that New York does have a militia right?
Just because it's a Naval Militia doesn't mean it isn't a militia. I've seen several NY license plates with the militia insignia on it.
Here's a link for you. New York Naval Militia Home page
^^ Demerson, I was thinking the same thing this afternoon. LMAO
Red coats standing armies wearing founding fathers envisioned (bad attempt at Yoda).
The heck with safety courses, NY should implement a basic spelling and grammar test before handing out anymore CCW permits.
Good night gentlemen, my head hurts. Best of luck BJ on whatever it is you intend to accomplish. I suggest signing up for the National Guard (but you'll have to go when they call you to service).
Last edited by cgrutt; 10-18-2011 at 08:07 PM.
I'm oky with the picking. Nice to see at least one person could see past my poor typing skills. The question and idea was simply would a civil malitia be another way to protect the rights we have now. I personally wouldnt trust in simply the idea nothing will change. I'm not here for a membership drive just a forum to openly explore a concept.
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