Can I go hunting even if I'm not hunting?
I don't hunt. I have no safety course or license but my brother has it all. So if he's out there hunting with his gun and I'm just filming it all can I do that? Be on hunting grounds with him and his rifle while he is actively hunting? I touch no gun. I kill nothing. Just filming.
yes you can be...just don't haev ANY firearm with you, don't even "hold" one of his.
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Cool thanks.
You cannot take part in any action which assists in the taking of game. That includes putting on a drive, using game calls, assisting in the spotting of game with optics, etc. So anything you may do to help him would qualify as hunting.
This. Technically pointing to an animal and notifying him it is there is illegal. Like Ragnar said, you can't do ANYTHING to assist in the taking of an animal. Simply holding a camera and filming is OK though.Originally Posted by Ragnar Danneskjold
Just a suggestion. Take the hunter safty course. That way you don't have to worry about being hassled by a game warden having a bad day. Plus it's free and if you end up enjoying it and your brother gets something you can switch.
As lame as it is,they are right......Take a safety course so a DEC officer doesn't jack you up........Those DEC fines are pretty hefty I have been told...!
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It would be a little difficult to prove he was aiding in the taking of game unless he was actually seen doing so by a DEC officer.
Most of the officers that I have encountered over the years have been decent enough guys. If,in the event that you encounter an officer in the field a simple explanation of what you were doing is usually all that is needed. Now, if you give him reason to suspect something other than picture taking was going on then he will certainly question you further.
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I'm not a hunter either (yet, but I find myself getting closer as time goes by) but am 100% for taking the hunting course and buying the license. Win-win situation as far as I'm concerned. No hassles by DEC and help support the sport.
You can go and watch... If I were you I would just take the course though
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Just taking the course doesn't do anything for him. If he is going to participate (or be accused of participating) he will need a license.
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Exactly. Having the blue card will get you just as far as not having a license at all.
Not having a license should not stop you at all from going out and sitting with your buddy.
This type of thing is encouraged, how else do you attract new people to the sport? They shouldn't have to pay all that money to decided if it's something they want to participate in. Usually you see this more targeted with youth but age shouldn't matter. I would think any DEC officer you encounter (slim to none chance) would understand as long as you are packing a camera instead of a 12ga.
Wear your orange, be courteous, be respectful, and buy the 1st round of beers.
well he cant buy the license if he doesn't take the course.
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The point is, he doesn't need the license. He's not hunting.
from the DEC website:
Frequently Asked Questions About Hunting - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Frequently Asked Questions About Hunting
Below are answers to a number of questions frequently asked by New York hunters. Use the links in the right margin to jump to specific topics.
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Q: Can I take my young child (or an unlicensed person) with me while I am deer hunting?
A: Yes, and we highly recommend it! Just make sure the child (or unlicensed person) is not hunting or assisting in any aspect of the hunt (like driving deer). Bring an extra pair of binoculars and plenty of snacks. Have a good time!
Law Enforcement FAQs - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Question: May a young child or other person without a hunting license accompany me while I am hunting?
Answer: With restrictions, yes. The child or unlicensed person cannot take part in any aspect of the hunt, including calling, driving/scaring game or possessing a firearm.
Question: My son is fourteen years old and has a small game hunting license. May he accompany me in the woods while I am hunting big game?
Answer: As long as he does not actively participate in the big game hunt, including driving, he may hunt small game while accompany you in the woods while you are hunting big game.
I never said he Needed the license I actually said he didnt need it in my first post on this thread.. but it doesn't hurt to have it
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Wow another thread wrought with paranoia. You fine. Enjoy your self.
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sorry to inform you guys but legally he is hunting hunt means to take pursue or DISTURB animals in there environment and he is doing that while walking in setting up or just being there
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So if I go for a hike during hunting season and I disturb a deer then I'm hunting?
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Sorry Badbowtie.....you are wrong. DECspecifically discusses activities like the OP asked about and they are legal. The "Disturbing" you are quoting would be like actively dislodging game...like a deer drive. And even then if you are immediatley adjacent to a liscensed driver and not disturbing any further than they are ..you arent going to have an issue. If your assurtion were correct activities like hiking and bird watching would be illegal without a hunting license.
And if you go on a hike when it isnt hunting season you are not only hunting without a license but also hunting during a closed season....lol. and if you have a jack knife you are hunting with an non legal hunting implement ...
technically that is the rule that is how they arrest non hunting protesters and keep them from harassing hunters, read you nys hunting manual and read definitions for "hunt" now how it is enforced is up to the officer, go to this link to dec down load it go to general regulations on page 18 and read it for your self, it includes all lesser act including disturbing which is at the officers interpertation
New York Hunting and Trapping Guide - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation
talk to a game warden if they want they can ticket you for being in the woods during open hunting seasons if you don't have a lisc
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You're missing the key word here...DISTURB. If he is just sitting in the woods with a hunter, he is not disturbing the animals. It's not a problem.
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